Join a sell side firm building risk analytics such as riskmetrics, Barra, etc etc. Far more interesting research and no yelling/screaming of traders. QuoteOriginally posted by: StraightOuttaBOI recently graduated with an MFE from a good school and now I work in market risk at a big bank. The job is mostly reporting and position monitoring and babysitting the risk systems. Most of my time is spent dealing with mundane operational issues and telling IT guys to fix random glitches (e.g. curves somehow didn't get linked causing VaR to blow up, wrong instrument type, trade booked in wrong account, etc. etc.)Id like to move into trading, but entry-level risk monkey to trader is a long shot, if not an impossible one. As to why I settled for a job in risk to begin with, well, the job market was/is absolute shit and at the time I considered myself lucky. Given that half my class is unemployed and the other half work in similarly shitty jobs, I suppose I shouldnt be complaining too much, but I feel all that stochastic calculus and derivative pricing theory is wasted.Now that Im not eligible to apply for the fresh-out-of-school S&T programs, I already have a masters, and I have the indelible stamp of Back/middle office monkey on my resume, is there any way to work my way into trading? Im young (early twenties) and wouldnt mind being a trading desk coffee bitch.I have heard fables of market risk guys and even product controllers somehow clawing their way onto the desk. But then again, I have heard many more stories of people staying in risk for years in the hopes of a such a move, and ending up stuck there. Would you recommend someone like myself to keep plugging away for a couple years and try to get onto the desk, or should I try to find a FO job elsewhere? Is that even possible for me anymore (e.g. is one year in BO/MO just as bad as five years)? What sort of roles should I target? Im much better at C++ and programming in general than your average back office monkey, but my maths isnt PhD level. I'm also very interested in structuring roles (isn't everyone?)Thanks for any responses, and especially hoping to hear from Dominic on this one.(P.S. to any fresh undergrads w/ no work experience contemplating an MFE: Don't do it unless you're OK with the idea of being me in a year).