QuoteOriginally posted by: DominicConnorchoose to radically misinterpret it and say "Joe Jerk is right about X", when he has tried to say NOT X in his rant.This is dishonest. You have gone to great lengths in other posts to discourage people from being dishonest, even if they think they can get away with it.In my own experience, which I would guess is limited compared to yours, your approach will only work in a workplace populated with dumb people. In places I have worked, there has been a smart senior person who would recognize your strategy instantly, and quietly label you as a fake, manipulative, self-important angle-shooter. Everything you said would be taken with a grain of salt from that day forward.What I am saying seems to agree somewhat with your past statements, so far as the cost of lying, which past statements seem to me to contradict your current recommendation.In the past I have argued that people don't mind a liar. But this is if they assume the liar is on their side, and loyal. A manager might prefer a lying salesman, as long as he doesn't lie to the manager (or is childishly harmless or transparent when he does). If you include a senior person in the audience for your lies, and thereby attempt to subvert his decision making, you could have problems.QuoteOriginally posted by: DominicConnorA key term here is to keep the moral high groundThere is a general problem with this. People who are slick and immoral, will often put on an act of keeping the moral high ground better than people who are in fact moral, but not very glib. In fact, using your own morals against you - appealing to your morals, and taking advantage of your predictability in this area - is the most powerful weapon of sociopaths. For this reason, a good counter strategy is often to distrust anyone who claims the moral high ground - or uses any kind of theatrics - as being practiced in tactics and therefore unsafe.So you will often run into people who are leery of any type of moral act, whether by a priest or whomever. They will more trust a flawed and fallen person. So of course adding some element of fallibility, by overtly sinning, is a better way to gain some people's trust.
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