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August 27th, 2013, 6:27 am

OK, I see your point on school projects. Makes sense.However, coming from eng/math/phys I should sort of expect a student to know latex, or expect him to be able to learn it in a few days/weeks and fix nasty layouts with the help of specialized online forums.Same for the p-c parity, at least up to a certain degree of understanding and sophistication. Noted that "logarithms and properties of logarithms" was missing. Probably next in line if this trend of adding as much stuff as possible to your CV continues.
 
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August 27th, 2013, 6:29 am

It is hard to see put-call parity impressing many people, Latex does occasionally pop up as a buzzword on a job spec, but not likely to be a killer skill for a good job.I would suspect that PCP would actually do harm to your application since a CV is showing off how good you think you are and if PCP is something you feel proud for understanding, which would at least worry some hiring managers.Conversely PCP is something that not knowing could kill your application if you don't understand it.
 
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August 27th, 2013, 7:51 am

Well, I guess the gentlemen were well advised by the NYU career center. Those CVs were designed by career advisers to impress other recruitment specialists, so I'll probably inspire myself..Mine were not meant to be words of advice: I am currently looking for a new job and I have to say that I never managed to go though the HR and headhunter pre-screening.I have some offers and I am currently negotiating with some potential employers but all those opportunities are thanks to me tracking down my future boss and showing him my work and research after reading the zealous rejection letters from either HR or HH.
 
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August 29th, 2013, 4:40 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: chocolatemoneyWell, I guess the gentlemen were well advised by the NYU career center. Those CVs were designed by career advisers to impress other recruitment specialists, so I'll probably inspire myself..Mine were not meant to be words of advice: I am currently looking for a new job and I have to say that I never managed to go though the HR and headhunter pre-screening.I have some offers and I am currently negotiating with some potential employers but all those opportunities are thanks to me tracking down my future boss and showing him my work and research after reading the zealous rejection letters from either HR or HH.Interesting...How did you get yourself directly in front of these people without going through HR? Did you have connections? How much work was it to set up a meeting?
 
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August 29th, 2013, 5:44 pm

QuoteI have some offers and I am currently negotiating with some potential employers but all those opportunities are thanks to me tracking down my future boss and showing him my work I once remember someone sending me an e-mail once "hello Dr. Duffy, my name is E*** , I have just made a web site + bug fixes for your new C++ book (this was 2004) as well as mj's book". How long do you it took him to get a job in the City?I think CM is doing something similar, i.e. pro-active.
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August 29th, 2013, 6:54 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteI have some offers and I am currently negotiating with some potential employers but all those opportunities are thanks to me tracking down my future boss and showing him my work I once remember someone sending me an e-mail once "hello Dr. Duffy, my name is E*** , I have just made a web site + bug fixes for your new C++ book (this was 2004) as well as mj's book". How long do you it took him to get a job in the City?I think CM is doing something similar, i.e. pro-active.Very simple..I like it. Thanks Daniel.
 
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August 30th, 2013, 3:33 pm

what I'm getting out of this thread is the following:1) Work on your own stuff and track down managers and show them your work, maybe take them to lunch sometime. This is the best way to get a very good position doing something you love.2) Going through HR is simply a waste of time. Their job is to generally say no unless management has the need for some low level grunt work. If you going through HR you might as well look elsewhere, even if you get the job, you probably won't like the work very much.3) Most Head Hunters are waste of time. They are just in it for quick buck and will spam you with nonsense positions. If you work with a headhunter make sure they really take the time to understand who you are and what you want to do, otherwise simply hang up the phone!A big thanks to everyone who replied.
 
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August 30th, 2013, 4:44 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: AnalyticalVegaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteI have some offers and I am currently negotiating with some potential employers but all those opportunities are thanks to me tracking down my future boss and showing him my work I once remember someone sending me an e-mail once "hello Dr. Duffy, my name is E*** , I have just made a web site + bug fixes for your new C++ book (this was 2004) as well as mj's book". How long do you it took him to get a job in the City?I think CM is doing something similar, i.e. pro-active.Very simple..I like it. Thanks Daniel.You're welcome. And there are many advantages, not the least of which is that it keeps you busy
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September 2nd, 2013, 10:16 am

Actually I remember E, if its the same one I got him a job.The key thing is to demonstrate that you can "do stuff", intelligence and education are necessary but not sufficient.The culture of HFT tends to be highly entrepreneurial, they like examples of things you have done.
 
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September 2nd, 2013, 10:43 am

Yep. QuoteThe key thing is to demonstrate that you can "do stuff", intelligence and education are necessary but not sufficient.I like that turn of phrase.
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