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What to do when tired of finance?

July 14th, 2016, 3:47 pm

Ideally a job with some technical requirements, sustainable (I mean really sustainable, so not say sustainable but still invest in China), green (think coral reefs and jungles/forests), doesnt pay too bad, no dysfunctional ego trippers (front office types), etc etc. Possible?
 
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Re: What to do when tired of finance?

July 14th, 2016, 3:55 pm

If you are tired of finance you are tired of Leif (Andersen). (After Samuel Johnson)

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Re: What to do when tired of finance?

July 14th, 2016, 4:39 pm

If you are tired of finance you are tired of Leif (Andersen). (After Samuel Johnson)

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:) the full quote:

"Why, Sir, you find no man, at all intellectual, who is willing to leave Finance. No, Sir, when a man is tired of Finance, he is tired of Leif; for there is in Finance all that Leif can afford."
 
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Re: What to do when tired of finance?

July 14th, 2016, 4:50 pm

Thank you. My Boswell is in some long-forgotten dusty corner of my library.

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Re: What to do when tired of finance?

July 14th, 2016, 7:25 pm

Ideally a job with some technical requirements, sustainable (I mean really sustainable, so not say sustainable but still invest in China), green (think coral reefs and jungles/forests), doesnt pay too bad, no dysfunctional ego trippers (front office types), etc etc. Possible?
Tricky IMO. The maths does not transfer easily to engineering. Competing with HBO/HTS programmers is difficult.
A good one is (technical) project management.
 
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July 14th, 2016, 8:06 pm

Ideally a job with some technical requirements, sustainable (I mean really sustainable, so not say sustainable but still invest in China), green (think coral reefs and jungles/forests), doesnt pay too bad, no dysfunctional ego trippers (front office types), etc etc. Possible?
Go work for Elon Musk. That guy rocks!
 
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Re: What to do when tired of finance?

July 16th, 2016, 7:51 am

What to do when tired of finance?
Work for free.
 
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Re: What to do when tired of finance?

July 16th, 2016, 11:37 am

What to do when tired of finance?
Work for free.
That's a grand idea.
 
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Re: What to do when tired of finance?

July 16th, 2016, 11:43 am

Ideally a job with some technical requirements, sustainable (I mean really sustainable, so not say sustainable but still invest in China), green (think coral reefs and jungles/forests), doesnt pay too bad, no dysfunctional ego trippers (front office types), etc etc. Possible?
Tricky IMO. The maths does not transfer easily to engineering. Competing with HBO/HTS programmers is difficult.
A good one is (technical) project management.
Yes, I regret not having better programming skills as indeed some of the alternatives I have been contemplating such as fleet optimization, or traffic/urban management & planning, requires it. But as you mention there is the project management side of things.
What is the maths behind fleet optimization (for example)? I can imagine it would involve some graph theory, but also PDEs / diffusion type problems?
 
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July 16th, 2016, 12:05 pm

 Hi froloos,
By fleet management (logistiek?) you mean routing and transport, for example?
This kind of application is quite mathematical and there are a couple of companies doing this kind of stuff for government studies and so on.

AFAIR PDE are used a bit, mostly convection/wave/ 1st order hyperbolic shock waves kinda.  But graph theory is the big one I reckon.

A not small part is software roll-out, version control and such-like.

// People do update programming courses all the time to suit changing business environments and applications.
 
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Re: What to do when tired of finance?

July 16th, 2016, 12:55 pm

And what about leaving quantitative finance for... finance? Forget coding, forget (financial) models, forget traders with oversized egos. A quant will always be "Look at his eyes, I'll give you a hint, his name is Yang. He won a national math competition in China he doesn't even speak English!" Banks aren't for quants.
 
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Re: What to do when tired of finance?

July 16th, 2016, 1:37 pm

And what about leaving quantitative finance for... finance? Forget coding, forget (financial) models, forget traders with oversized egos. A quant will always be "Look at his eyes, I'll give you a hint, his name is Yang. He won a national math competition in China he doesn't even speak English!" Banks aren't for quants.
What do you mean leave quant for finance (and which Yang?)? As in moving to a corporate function, or VC firm?
(Not all traders are ego-trippers of course - I was being slightly 1-dimensional)
 
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Re: What to do when tired of finance?

July 16th, 2016, 1:44 pm

Hi Cuchulainn, yes route optimization / logistics. I think I'd enjoy working for a firm like KLM for example. I wonder if these firms develop their own optimization software or use vendor / third party software.
 
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Re: What to do when tired of finance?

July 16th, 2016, 2:02 pm

And what about leaving quantitative finance for... finance? Forget coding, forget (financial) models, forget traders with oversized egos. A quant will always be "Look at his eyes, I'll give you a hint, his name is Yang. He won a national math competition in China he doesn't even speak English!" Banks aren't for quants.
What do you mean leave quant for finance (and which Yang?)? As in moving to a corporate function, or VC firm?
(Not all traders are ego-trippers of course - I was being slightly 1-dimensional)
Yang is an archetypal name for all quants, this was a quote from the movie 'The Big Short.' Quants will always be more or less alien in financial environment. I moved to a corporate function and so far enjoy it.
 
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Re: What to do when tired of finance?

July 16th, 2016, 4:39 pm

And what about leaving quantitative finance for... finance? Forget coding, forget (financial) models, forget traders with oversized egos. A quant will always be "Look at his eyes, I'll give you a hint, his name is Yang. He won a national math competition in China he doesn't even speak English!" Banks aren't for quants.
What do you mean leave quant for finance (and which Yang?)? As in moving to a corporate function, or VC firm?
(Not all traders are ego-trippers of course - I was being slightly 1-dimensional)
Yang is an archetypal name for all quants, this was a quote from the movie 'The Big Short.' Quants will always be more or less alien in financial environment. I moved to a corporate function and so far enjoy it.
Lots of meetings? (we call that vergaderen in the Lowlands).
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