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Slow boat from Mars

Posted: July 3rd, 2018, 6:01 pm
by Alan
My slow boat from Mars left 17 million years ago, but didn't arrive on Earth until 13,000 years ago. Who am I? 

Re: Slow boat from Mars

Posted: July 4th, 2018, 3:29 am
by frolloos
Depends on the frame of reference :-D

Re: Slow boat from Mars

Posted: July 4th, 2018, 4:28 am
by Alan
Nothing tricky about clocks. Assume clock on the Earth, and "X years ago" has the everyday meaning.

Re: Slow boat from Mars

Posted: July 4th, 2018, 5:14 am
by frolloos
ALH84001 (the name of the boat)

I suspected you were thinking of possible life forms hitching a ride on a rock, just had to research exactly which rock.

Re: Slow boat from Mars

Posted: July 4th, 2018, 2:58 pm
by Alan
Very good -- I thought that would be harder.

Re: Slow boat from Mars

Posted: July 4th, 2018, 3:04 pm
by Cuchulainn
And a slow boat to Mars?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_One# ... ned_lander

There are several realistic possibilities on the origin of these objects.  We should keep this in mind as we hear of the various news reports.  Nothing about this finding should be considered to be evidence of evolution.  Regardless of which planet or the conditions suggested by scientific models under which life would have evolved, the origin of life from chemicals remains implausible. "In the beginning God..." is still the best explanation.

Re: Slow boat from Mars

Posted: July 4th, 2018, 3:23 pm
by Alan
Genesis would have been so much more intriguing had it it opened with just a hint of a prediction. Say, 
In the beginning God created the heaven and the many earths ... 

Re: Slow boat from Mars

Posted: July 4th, 2018, 4:07 pm
by Cuchulainn
Genesis would have been so much more intriguing had it it opened with just a hint of a prediction. Say, 
In the beginning God created the heaven and the many earths ... 
Our Earth was Her first prototype? Like software, it is always possible to improve it for the next version?

Re: Slow boat from Mars

Posted: July 4th, 2018, 7:02 pm
by Alan
Genesis would have been so much more intriguing had it it opened with just a hint of a prediction. Say, 
In the beginning God created the heaven and the many earths ... 
Our Earth was Her first prototype? Like software, it is always possible to improve it for the next version?
Sure, Homo sapiens as prototype also?

Man in Black: Aw, yeah, cue the waterworks. About time you realized the futility of your situation.

Dolores Abernathy: I'm not crying for myself. I'm crying for you. They say that great beasts once roamed this world. As big as mountains. Yet all that's left of them is bone and amber. Time undoes even the mightiest of creatures. Just look at what it's done to you. One day you will perish. You will lie with the rest of your kind in the dirt. Your dreams forgotten, your horrors effaced. Your bones will turn to sand. And upon that sand a new god will walk. One that will never die. Because this world doesn't belong to you or the people who came before. It belongs to someone who has yet to come.

Re: Slow boat from Mars

Posted: July 5th, 2018, 9:33 am
by frolloos
Genesis would have been so much more intriguing had it it opened with just a hint of a prediction. Say, 
In the beginning God created the heaven and the many earths ... 
The creation according to the Rig Veda is actually quite intriguing, especially the last 4 lines:


[table][tr][td]Then even nothingness was not, nor existence,
There was no air then, nor the heavens beyond it.
What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping?
Was there then cosmic water, in depths unfathomed?

Then there was neither death nor immortality
nor was there then the torch of night and day.
The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining.
There was that One then, and there was no other.

At first there was only darkness wrapped in darkness.
All this was only unillumined cosmic water.
That One which came to be, enclosed in nothing,
arose at last, born of the power of heat.

In the beginning desire descended on it -
that was the primal seed, born of the mind.
The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom
know that which is kin to that which is not.

And they have stretched their cord across the void,
and know what was above, and what below.
Seminal powers made fertile mighty forces.
Below was strength, and over it was impulse.

But, after all, who knows, and who can say
Whence it all came, and how creation happened?
the devas (gods) themselves are later than creation,
so who knows truly whence it has arisen?

Whence all creation had its origin,
the creator, whether she/he fashioned it or whether she/he did not,
the creator, who surveys it all from highest heaven,
she/he knows - or maybe even she/he does not know.[11][/td]
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[td]—Translated by A. L. Basham[/td]
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