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Imagine Al, John and Norb are each given $1 bn hedge fund to run.You may thus choose from "Relativity Fund", "Self-adjoint Extended Arbitrage"and "Harmonic Capital Management" to invest in. Which one, if any? Cuchulainn Posts: 63251 Joined: July 16th, 2004, 7:38 am Location: Amsterdam Contact: ### Einstein vs von Neumann vs Wiener QuoteOriginally posted by: DJAverageImagine Al, John and Norb are each given$ 1 bn hedge fund to run.You may thus choose from "Relativity Fund", "Self-adjoint Extended Arbitrage"and "Harmonic Capital Management" to invest in. Which one, if any?von Neumann, no problem because hes's got the computer and the schemes/codes.
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DJAverage
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QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: DJAverageImagine Al, John and Norb are each given $1 bn hedge fund to run.You may thus choose from "Relativity Fund", "Self-adjoint Extended Arbitrage"and "Harmonic Capital Management" to invest in. Which one, if any?von Neumann, no problem because hes's got the computer and the schemes/codes.Right, but what about the risk of many potentially harmful lawsuits due to his involvement in the Manhattan Project? Cuchulainn Posts: 63251 Joined: July 16th, 2004, 7:38 am Location: Amsterdam Contact: ### Einstein vs von Neumann vs Wiener QuoteRight, but what about the risk of many potentially harmful lawsuits DJ,Thank you for your confidence in my ability to answer your questions but I must disappoint you. My expertise does not extend to legal issues. Still, I think (now I duck head) that JvN's contribution to Computational Science was enormous. Not only on paper, but also in the computer. I bet he could have solved any problem. On an off issue, look at how many mathematicians from Hungary:maths Last edited by Cuchulainn on October 14th, 2006, 10:00 pm, edited 1 time in total. Chips chips chips Du du du du du Ci bum ci bum bum Du du du du du Ci bum ci bum bum Du du du du du http://www.datasimfinancial.com http://www.datasim.nl DJAverage Topic Author Posts: 144 Joined: October 8th, 2006, 6:59 pm ### Einstein vs von Neumann vs Wiener QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteRight, but what about the risk of many potentially harmful lawsuits DJ,Thank you for your confidence in my ability to answer your questions DJ,I ordered your book last week. I guess this shows some confidence in your level of expertise DJAverage Topic Author Posts: 144 Joined: October 8th, 2006, 6:59 pm ### Einstein vs von Neumann vs Wiener QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnOn an off issue, look at how many mathematicians from Hungary:mathsWhat about the founder of non-Euclidean geometry? INFIDEL Posts: 749 Joined: November 29th, 2005, 4:17 pm ### Einstein vs von Neumann vs Wiener QuoteDJAverageImagine Al, John and Norb are each given$ 1 bn hedge fund to run.You may thus choose from "Relativity Fund", "Self-adjoint Extended Arbitrage"and "Harmonic Capital Management" to invest in. Which one, if any?Albert was a deep, slow thinker. Wiener was a one-trick pony (?). Von Neumann could listen to your description of a physical process, model it in his head as a non-linear PDE and then solve it in his head and tell you what to expect from your future experiment, all in the taxi on the way to the airport. I dunno -- which one's more suited for QF?

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QuoteDJAverageImagine Al, John and Norb are each given $1 bn hedge fund to run.You may thus choose from "Relativity Fund", "Self-adjoint Extended Arbitrage"and "Harmonic Capital Management" to invest in. Which one, if any?My monkey has 50% chance to whup any one of these three monkeys. Last edited by KackToodles on October 15th, 2006, 10:00 pm, edited 1 time in total. crowlogic Posts: 658 Joined: May 22nd, 2005, 6:47 pm ### Einstein vs von Neumann vs Wiener QuoteOriginally posted by: KackToodlesQuoteDJAverageImagine Al, John and Norb are each given$ 1 bn hedge fund to run.You may thus choose from "Relativity Fund", "Self-adjoint Extended Arbitrage"and "Harmonic Capital Management" to invest in. Which one, if any?My monkey has 50% chance to whup any one of these three monkeys. Dude, that is true if the markets truly are in equilibrium. During phase transitions the degrees of freedom are reduced and there is asymmetry, as well as the fact that doesnt take into account general persistent features in different modes.

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### Einstein vs von Neumann vs Wiener

johnny was rich -- clearly, the one to choose

Zub
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### Einstein vs von Neumann vs Wiener

For what concerns mathematicians (or scientists in general) coming from Hungary, check out the chapter "The men coming from Mars" in the book by R. Rhodes - The making of the atomic bomb. It's a marvellous insight on the reasons for the production of such a huge amount of excellence within a relatively short period of time.Btw, I would also choose Johnny. He was reputed the smartest guy in Princetown by Einstein himself, as reported in Pais' biography.
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DJAverage
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### Einstein vs von Neumann vs Wiener

QuoteOriginally posted by: KackToodles My monkey has 50% chance to whup any one of these three monkeys. Jee, I have expected some more respect for the monkey Albert from you, professor.

DJAverage
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### Einstein vs von Neumann vs Wiener

QuoteOriginally posted by: ZubBtw, I would also choose Johnny. He was reputed the smartest guy in Princetown by Einstein himself, as reported in Pais' biography.Since almost everybody is betting on John, contrarian thinking suggests he would probably underperform the other two.

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### Einstein vs von Neumann vs Wiener

QuoteOriginally posted by: DJAverageQuoteOriginally posted by: KackToodles My monkey has 50% chance to whup any one of these three monkeys. Jee, I have expected some more respect for the monkey Albert from you, professor. Psycho-Cacker was referring to the monkey on his own back.
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### Einstein vs von Neumann vs Wiener

QuoteOriginally posted by: DJAverageJee, I have expected some more respect for the monkey Albert. Albert is a monkey like you and me. The only difference is that Albert grooms himself to look more like a monkey than the rest of us. Mr. Market is smarter than any monkey.
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