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IftikharA
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Open Letter to the Home Secretary

October 22nd, 2006, 7:28 pm

Established 1981London School of Islamics An Educational Trust63 Margery Park Road London E7 9LD Email: info@londonschoolofislamics.org.ukwww.londonschoolofislamics.org.ukTel/Fax: 0208 555 2733 / 07817 112 667An Open Letter to the British Home SecretaryThe home secretary has braved a critical audience to call on Muslim parents to do more in the battle against terrorism. He asked to look for the “tell-tale signs” in their children and intervene if they suspect they are being influenced by extremists. Islam was being perverted by “fanatics” exploiting young people. These fanatics are looking to groom and brainwash children for suicide bombing. When he was the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, he never urged parents to monitor their children. Muslim parents shall be treated differently if their children show extreme tendencies compared to others of different faiths who may also harbour extreme tendencies.Muslim parents have been worried about their children indulging in anti-social behavior, binge drinking, drug addiction, sexually transmitted diseases and teenage pregnancies and other social evils. Muslim children suffer bullying and racism in schools and outside the schools. Majority of Muslim children leave schools with low grades. Muslim parents would like their children to learn Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. Majority of Muslim youths are unemployed and even 25% of Muslim graduates are without full-time employment. Those who are lucky to be employed find bullying, discrimination and few prospects for promotion to higher positions. The number of Muslim youths in prison and mental hospitals is on the increase. The number of drug addicts is on the increase. Hundreds of overseas Muslim doctors are unemployed. Terrorism is not the issue for the Muslims. It is the creation of the West.Muslim children are human beings with social, emotional and spiritual needs and demands. They are not just economics for the economic prosperity of the British society. They are cut off from their cultural roots and are unable to enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. British schooling dislocates Muslim pupils from their cultural heritage. By the age of 16 “they are not ours, neither are they theirs”. Majority of Muslim parents wanted access to an” environment where their children can grow up with an understanding of Islam, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages. The sound knowledge of ones language would appear to help – and not hinder the acquisition of a second language and bilingual children may even have slight cognitive advantages. In British schooling, priority is given to suppress the other languages in favour of English. In fact, other languages should be fostered in addition to English. Mastery of English language is not enough for the Muslim children. If they find that they are not welcome in a country, it is difficult to find motivation for integration and education. In the past Muslims were victim of discrimination in all walks of life. The British Establishment did nothing to tackle that problem and issue. Now the young Muslim generation, well versed in English is victim of terrorism by the British Establishment and thousands of Muslim youths have been searched and arrested and are behind the bar without any charges and that make them more alienated from the British society. Iftikhar Ahmad
 
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October 22nd, 2006, 7:52 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: IftikharAMastery of English language is not enough for the Muslim children. If they find that they are not welcome in a country, it is difficult to find motivation for integration and education. In the past Muslims were victim of discrimination in all walks of life. The British Establishment did nothing to tackle that problem and issue.Okay, I propose they tackle the problem now. Just lock all these unmotivated slobs in prison. Problem solved.
 
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Open Letter to the Home Secretary

October 22nd, 2006, 11:02 pm

You think being a moslem in Britain is bad, sheeh, you should try being a Christian in Iran for a day Please, don't kill me.
 
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October 23rd, 2006, 6:20 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: IftikharAEstablished 1981London School of Islamics An Educational Trust63 Margery Park Road London E7 9LD Email: info@londonschoolofislamics.org.ukwww.londonschoolofislamics.org.ukTel/Fax: 0208 555 2733 / 07817 112 667 In British schooling, priority is given to suppress the other languages in favour of English. In fact, other languages should be fostered in addition to English.Iftikhar AhmadWhat a nonsense to teach in English in Britain!!!! I propose that we start teaching in zulu and swahili ( beautiful languages indeed,.. hakuna matata)
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October 23rd, 2006, 6:20 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: IftikharAEstablished 1981London School of Islamics An Educational Trust63 Margery Park Road London E7 9LD Email: info@londonschoolofislamics.org.ukwww.londonschoolofislamics.org.ukTel/Fax: 0208 555 2733 / 07817 112 667An Open Letter to the British Home SecretaryThe number of Muslim youths in prison and mental hospitals is on the increase. Iftikhar AhmadDid they let you out?
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October 23rd, 2006, 6:28 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: IftikharAEstablished 1981London School of Islamics An Educational Trust63 Margery Park Road London E7 9LD Email: info@londonschoolofislamics.org.ukwww.londonschoolofislamics.org.ukTel/Fax: 0208 555 2733 / 07817 112 667An Open Letter to the British Home SecretaryThey are cut off from their cultural roots and are unable to enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. British schooling dislocates Muslim pupils from their cultural heritage. Iftikhar AhmadEasy solution to that, send them to schools and Universities in Saudi Arabia or Iran. Or put them in private leassons, (exactly the same way that if I may want my child to learn harp in addition to piano)Next question please
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October 23rd, 2006, 6:58 am

So Iftikhar - when are you going to post to my questions in a thread ages back. You can PM me if you are embarassed.PS: Isn't this the wrong forum??
 
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October 24th, 2006, 7:27 am

Its the wrong forum and swahili is a beautiful language.......As for the drivel written...all I see is a bunch of excuses.....every other ethnic minority has faced the same discrimination you disucss but nonoe of them go round blowing up trains and chanting death to infidels
 
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October 24th, 2006, 8:34 am

I'm sure John Reid has infinite time to trawl message boards searching for your hugely insightful contribution. Perhaps if you directed your letter to him and not to a finance message board you might have more success.If the number of Muslim Youths in Prison is on the increase it could be because they are increasningly committing crimes? Just a thought...I agree entirely with the comments below, Muslims in Islamic Countries who haven't faced Racism etc are still chanting death to the infidels and burning flags etc, what caues this behaviour???
 
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October 25th, 2006, 9:26 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: HFRiskI'm sure John Reid has infinite time to trawl message boards searching for your hugely insightful contribution. Perhaps if you directed your letter to him and not to a finance message board you might have more success.If the number of Muslim Youths in Prison is on the increase it could be because they are increasningly committing crimes? Just a thought...I agree entirely with the comments below, Muslims in Islamic Countries who haven't faced Racism etc are still chanting death to the infidels and burning flags etc, what caues this behaviour???Blood lust.
 
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October 25th, 2006, 2:21 pm

I am not native English either, but I must say that this whining and pressing of rights get on my nerves. If you choose (well, the children hasn't actually choosed...) to live in a country you must face how that is without complaining, and try to earn respect from the original inhabitants so they think they did not make a wrong choice in letting you live there.Now it seems like everyone think it's their right to live anywhere they like and that the original inhabitants should adapt. I think not.
 
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October 25th, 2006, 2:30 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ffyringI am not native English either, but I must say that this whining and pressing of rights get on my nerves. If you choose (well, the children hasn't actually choosed...) to live in a country you must face how that is without complaining, and try to earn respect from the original inhabitants so they think they did not make a wrong choice in letting you live there.Now it seems like everyone think it's their right to live anywhere they like and that the original inhabitants should adapt. I think not.Damn right... !!! P.S. With some exceptions of course... i wouldn't have enjoyed to be a jew in 1940s Germany when adapting without complaining would have meant developing a respiratory system working on gas But England and the western world at the present day is still far away from that situation (but it might get very close to it in the future as a reaction to all the minorities that keep on complaining against an afterall very tollerant majority of people).
 
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October 25th, 2006, 10:24 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: gcQuoteOriginally posted by: ffyringI am not native English either, but I must say that this whining and pressing of rights get on my nerves. If you choose (well, the children hasn't actually choosed...) to live in a country you must face how that is without complaining, and try to earn respect from the original inhabitants so they think they did not make a wrong choice in letting you live there.Now it seems like everyone think it's their right to live anywhere they like and that the original inhabitants should adapt. I think not.Damn right... !!! P.S. With some exceptions of course... i wouldn't have enjoyed to be a jew in 1940s Germany when adapting without complaining would have meant developing a respiratory system working on gas But England and the western world at the present day is still far away from that situation (but it might get very close to it in the future as a reaction to all the minorities that keep on complaining against an afterall very tollerant majority of people).I fear so.
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