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Re: Is economics a science?

December 1st, 2020, 10:51 am

It seems, one text it not enough to convince anyone that economics is not a science. I should have expected it. So, now I give you two additional texts. One explains what a science is, by showing how improper are the encyclopedic definitions being used nowadays:
http://philosopher4hire.eu/index.php?nr=6
the other:
http://philosopher4hire.eu/index.php?nr=7
shows, that even with definitions biased towards making economics a science, it is really ridiculous to insist that economics is a science. An example here is a paper by the economics professor at the Victoria University, Australia. A really good example of intellectual deception. I think, it is really embarrassing to agree with such encyclopedic ‘definitions’ and ‘scientific’ papers. When it is so easy to show, that they are simply ridiculous.
I hope, you will find my texts entertaining and surprising, at least. A kind of intellectual exercise so much different than the usual stuff you deal with.
 
 I’ll use this occasion to answer ‘questions’, I’d left unanswered in this thread last time. I admit, I’m curious, if Wittgenstein keeps saying, that: ”it's a description rather than an explanation.”
 
 ‘A science’ containing contradictions is not a science, but an intellectual mess.

Has mathematics resolved the incompleteness theorems (e.g. Godel)? That is a question rather than a statement.
First of all, incompleteness is not contradiction. You should understand that. One has very little in common with the other.
Secondly, Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorems just show mathematically (logically), what had been known for ages. That we are unable to learn and understand reality using pure thinking alone. It is the Descartes’ “I doubt, therefore I exist” proved formally.
Thirdly, your argument falls into the deceptive way of reasoning I deal with in my text “Academic view on economics”:
proving something good by asserting everything is bad
Basically, you say: “Hey, mathematics has its problems, too!”. This way one can ‘prove’ that the US economy is not much better than the one in Yemen. Just find a problem in the US economy. Nothing easier… Who cares, that “the problems” are totally incomparable.
 
 
It is hard to argue with plain
 It's not even wrong.

No, it's actually wrong
I can only say, that if it is not wrong, than it is probably right…
 
And:
Madness to ignorance is like deterministic chaos to randomness.
is meaningless and could be put anywhere. However, it sounds wise.
 
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Re: Is economics a science?

December 2nd, 2020, 7:36 pm

I hope, you will find my texts entertaining and surprising, 

It's when you mentioned Euler's number I switched to channel 502. It's important to keep audience on tenterhooks?

BTW what's your favourite Tractatus' proposition?
 
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Re: Is economics a science?

December 3rd, 2020, 10:13 am

It's when you mentioned Euler's number I switched to channel 502. It's important to keep audience on tenterhooks?
Do you suggest, that mentioning Euler’s number makes people switch to channel 502? A bold thesis.
The following question you can answer yourself…
BTW what's your favourite Tractatus' proposition?
I’ve never read any.
 
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Re: Is economics a science?

December 7th, 2020, 11:44 pm

"Is economics a science?"

at least not a Nobel science, as no Nobel there, only memory nobel.
 
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Re: Is economics a science?

December 8th, 2020, 9:47 am

"Is economics a science?"

at least not a Nobel science, as no Nobel there, only memory nobel.
This detail means very little. The fact, that we call economics a science, has its profound consequences:
It gives, the otherwise more or less common, beliefs or knowledge, the legitimacy of a science. Politicians, economists, ideologists, and many others do need economics "sitting at the table" as a science. [..] Social scientists break through successive bottoms falling into absurdity. Unfortunately, our Western world agenda is firmly linked to their 'advancements'. And it is hard to break this linkage for as long as we believe, that what they do is science. Deserving the same trust as physics or engineering.
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