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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 17th, 2018, 8:13 pm

The Gulen story may be fake news
“No, it’s not under consideration,” Trump told reporters when asked about a report that the White House is seeking the extradition of Fethullah Gulen, a political foe of Erdogan who lives under exile in Pennsylvania.
I would assume that niceties like extraditions could be bypassed by some black ops guys having him disappear and magically appear on vacation in Turkey. 
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 17th, 2018, 11:59 pm

In the "you can't make this stuff up" category, Trump insists that the California fires are due to a lack of proper raking of the forest floor. You know, none of that climate stuff...
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 18th, 2018, 7:48 am

Been tried before
Umaru Dikko
We've all had emails from former Nigerian government officials who've stolen billions of dollars and need help getting the money out of Nigeria.
Umaru Dikko was Transport Minister when his brother-in-law Shehu Shagari (shown below) was president
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and was alleged to have stolen $6B US in oil revenue. He fled to London following a military coup and there was an effort by the new Nigerian government to kidnap him and exfiltrate him to Nigeria in a diplomatic bag, but the plot was foiled because his secretary witnessed the kidnapping
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 18th, 2018, 8:33 am

In the "you can't make this stuff up" category, Trump insists that the California fires are due to a lack of proper raking of the forest floor. You know, none of that climate stuff...

at least one of the fires, the Camp Fire in Northern California, seems to have been caused by the utility PG&E although the state seems to be about to give them a pass
California throws lifeline to PG&E over potential Camp Fire liability
Shares of Pacific Gas & Electric soared Friday after California's top utility regulator said his agency will help the company deal with potentially crippling liability costs from wildfires.
Stock prices soared nearly 38 percent after plunging 60 percent and losing $15 billion in valuation in the week following the Northern California wildfire that is the nation's deadliest in a century.
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No cause has been determined, but speculation has centered on PG&E, which reported an outage around the time and place the fire ignited. The death toll from the so-called Camp Fire has risen to at least 63, with hundreds of people still unaccounted for. California state investigators in June faulted PG&E-owned power lines for sparking a dozen blazes in Northern California in the fall of 2017 that killed 46 and incinerated nearly 9,000 homes and other structures.  
President Trump is correct of course becayse the fires have been far worse than they would otherwise have been because of "an increased amount of natural fuel"
Not just the leaves and branches on the ground, but a record number of dead trees caused in large part by bark beetle infestation. According to the USDA Forest Service, as of December 2017, there were a record 129 million dead trees on 8.9 million acres in CA. That's a lot of tinder.
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 18th, 2018, 11:20 am

You know, none of that climate stuff...
If you're a warmer, you probably love President Trump because of his efforts to reduce C02


The US led the world in cutting C02 emissions in President Trump's first year.
Large as that cut was, unfortunately the EU increased emissions by even more than President Trump cut them
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 18th, 2018, 12:53 pm

You know, none of that climate stuff...
If you're a warmer, you probably love President Trump because of his efforts to reduce C02


The US led the world in cutting C02 emissions in President Trump's first year.
Large as that cut was, unfortunately the EU increased emissions by even more than President Trump cut them
The US led the world in cutting CO2 emissions despite Trump. All his efforts to increase emissions, especially but not exclusively from coal, will take considerably longer than a year to make a major impact. Meanwhile, carryover effects from eight years of Obama policies (stunted by a GOP led Congress as they may have been) and the favorable economics of renewables have made for tiny improvements. Although, of course, nothing remotely like what is needed.
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 18th, 2018, 12:55 pm

Been tried before
Umaru Dikko
We've all had emails from former Nigerian government officials who've stolen billions of dollars and need help getting the money out of Nigeria.
Umaru Dikko was Transport Minister when his brother-in-law Shehu Shagari (shown below) was president
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and was alleged to have stolen $6B US in oil revenue. He fled to London following a military coup and there was an effort by the new Nigerian government to kidnap him and exfiltrate him to Nigeria in a diplomatic bag, but the plot was foiled because his secretary witnessed the kidnapping
I don’t think you get it. I was not talking about the government of Turkey doing anything.
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 18th, 2018, 2:02 pm

as the EPA said,  "The science is clear, under President Trump greenhouse gas emissions are down."
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 18th, 2018, 3:18 pm

That is the sort of statement that the EPA under Trump will make. To inject a little more "science":

"The report found that the amount of greenhouse emissions by the United States fell in the most recent year. But there’s a problem: Due to the lag in data collection, that decline occurred during President Barack Obama’s final year in office, 2016, not under Trump."

This is from Politifact.
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 18th, 2018, 7:55 pm

That is the sort of statement that the EPA under Trump will make. To inject a little more "science":

"The report found that the amount of greenhouse emissions by the United States fell in the most recent year. But there’s a problem: Due to the lag in data collection, that decline occurred during President Barack Obama’s final year in office, 2016, not under Trump."

This is from Politifact.
lol, but the data that was from President Trump's first year in office did show a decline.

That's one heck of a "fact check" site you've got there.
The EPA said, "The science is clear, under President Trump greenhouse gas emissions are down," and Polifact rates the statement as "Half True" because according to Politifact greenhouse gas emissions are indeed down, which is exactly what the EPA and President Trump said, but "Whatever decline has occurred on Trump’s watch is unlikely to stem from his own policies"
How in the name of Sam Hill is that a fact-check? They're not fact-checking what was actually said, which was true, but instead fact-checking something which no one said

My rating: a big fat lie from politifact
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 18th, 2018, 8:27 pm

With those charges hanging over him, Gulen fled Turkey for the US during the Clinton administration. The charges went away in the early 2000s when Gulen's then friend Erdogan became prime minister.  Gulen appears to have originally come to the US for medical treatment, or at least that was the reason he was admitted. He has diabetes, which of course is a rare and complicated disease for which he could only be treated in the US. The suspicion is that was a pretext and that once inside the US, he had no intention of ever leaving.
Somehow Gulen got a green card, despite the opposition of the Bush 2 administration.
The controversy was that he applied for an EB1 green card (EB=employment based) as someone with extraordinary ability in education. Homeland and State both opposed the application, because whatever else Gulen might be, there was
"...overwhelming evidence that plaintiff is not an expert in the field of education, is not an educator, and is certainly not one of a small percentage of experts in the field of education who have risen to the very top of that field. Further, the record contains overwhelming evidence that plaintiff is primarily the leader of a large and influential religious and political movement with immense commercial holdings.”
there's something not kosher about that green card
Gulen got an EB1 Green Card even though he doesn't appear to meet the criteria because a judge overruled State and Homeland during Bush 2.
When things smell bad, the clintons are usually involved
2015: Followers Of A Mysterious Turkish Islamic Cleric Have Donated Heavily To Hillary’s Campaign And Family Charity
There's even a link in that article to a 2006 photo of "PRESIDENT OF TURKISH CULTURAL CENTER, RECEP OZKAN PRESENTING A GIFT TO HON. SENATOR HILLARY R. CLINTON" during the Bush 2 era.
The obvious suspicion is a large donation to the Clinton Foundation followed by a phone call to a judge. It would be interesting to see which judge okayed the green card and how he or she fits into the Clinton universe
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 18th, 2018, 9:09 pm

With those charges hanging over him, Gulen fled Turkey for the US during the Clinton administration. The charges went away in the early 2000s when Gulen's then friend Erdogan became prime minister.  Gulen appears to have originally come to the US for medical treatment, or at least that was the reason he was admitted. He has diabetes, which of course is a rare and complicated disease for which he could only be treated in the US. The suspicion is that was a pretext and that once inside the US, he had no intention of ever leaving.
Somehow Gulen got a green card, despite the opposition of the Bush 2 administration.
The controversy was that he applied for an EB1 green card (EB=employment based) as someone with extraordinary ability in education. Homeland and State both opposed the application, because whatever else Gulen might be, there was
"...overwhelming evidence that plaintiff is not an expert in the field of education, is not an educator, and is certainly not one of a small percentage of experts in the field of education who have risen to the very top of that field. Further, the record contains overwhelming evidence that plaintiff is primarily the leader of a large and influential religious and political movement with immense commercial holdings.”
there's something not kosher about that green card
Gulen got an EB1 Green Card even though he doesn't appear to meet the criteria because a judge overruled State and Homeland during Bush 2.
When things smell bad, the clintons are usually involved
2015: Followers Of A Mysterious Turkish Islamic Cleric Have Donated Heavily To Hillary’s Campaign And Family Charity
There's even a link in that article to a 2006 photo of "PRESIDENT OF TURKISH CULTURAL CENTER, RECEP OZKAN PRESENTING A GIFT TO HON. SENATOR HILLARY R. CLINTON" during the Bush 2 era.
The obvious suspicion is a large donation to the Clinton Foundation followed by a phone call to a judge. It would be interesting to see which judge okayed the green card and how he or she fits into the Clinton universe
The judge was Stewart Dalzell, appointed by George H. W. Bush. Oh, well...
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 19th, 2018, 7:34 am

Loggers support Trump's claim that wildfires caused by 'poor forest management'
“President Trump blamed poor forest management for wildfires in California and throughout the West, and there is truth to statements he has made,” said Daniel Dructor, executive vice president of the American Loggers Council, a coalition of state and regional associations that represents independent contract loggers.
“It’s time to rise above political posturing and recognize that active forest management — including logging, thinning, grazing and controlled burning — are tools that can and must be used to reduce fire risks and help mitigate the impacts to landscapes,” Mr. Dructor said in a statement.
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

November 19th, 2018, 11:12 am

Loggers support Trump's claim that wildfires caused by 'poor forest management'
“President Trump blamed poor forest management for wildfires in California and throughout the West, and there is truth to statements he has made,” said Daniel Dructor, executive vice president of the American Loggers Council, a coalition of state and regional associations that represents independent contract loggers.
“It’s time to rise above political posturing and recognize that active forest management — including logging, thinning, grazing and controlled burning — are tools that can and must be used to reduce fire risks and help mitigate the impacts to landscapes,” Mr. Dructor said in a statement.
Not to say that they don’t have a point, but asking loggers whether they should be hired to cut down more trees in national forests is akin to asking barbers whether you need a haircut.
 
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November 20th, 2018, 12:57 am

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