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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 2nd, 2018, 8:23 pm

remember the narrative that hillary only lost in 2016 because of fake news and Russian troll farms?
Study: Donald Trump underperformed among active internet users
A new study published in PLOS One indicates that Donald Trump performed worse than previous GOP presidential candidates among those who frequently use the internet.
“Given the amount of discussion surrounding the use of the internet around the 2016 election (e.g., candidates’ Twitter use, Russian interference, and fake news), it seemed like a pertinent question for understanding current events,” explained Levi Boxell of Stanford University.
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Boxell and his colleagues found that Trump outperformed previous Republican presidential candidates among those who were least active online.
“This essentially means that Trump did worse among internet users than Romney did and, in contrast, did better among non-internet users. This questions to some extent the popular discourse surrounding the importance of the internet for the 2016 election,” Boxell told PsyPost.
Still, facebook/twitter/youtube/etc are working to ban (and shadowban) conservative voices to help the Dems in subsequent elections
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 2nd, 2018, 8:50 pm

remember the narrative that hillary only lost in 2016 because of fake news and Russian troll farms?

Let's leave that to Robert Mueller to decide on.

I though she lost (she got more votes than DT) because of the electoral boundaries? A bit like Derry in the 1960s?
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 2nd, 2018, 10:28 pm

There was a count done the other day of people in Trump's inner circle who had been caught lying to Congress, the FBI, and/or on the record to media. Having it run well into double digits was only marginally interesting -- people sometimes have bad memory and express themselves awkwardly, etc. The fact that everybody lied about the same thing was far more telling. It was always about Russia. 
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 2nd, 2018, 11:25 pm

if you read Ken Starr's book, you know that during a 180 minute interview, Hillary said some variant of "I don't know" or "I don't recall" over 100 times. Starr knew Hillary was lying, Hillary knew Starr knew she was lying, and Starr knew Hillary knew that he knew.

Dershowitz was sounding off on process crimes the other day,
Dershowitz Rips Mueller for ‘False Statement Prosecutions’ — ‘They’re Crimes That Were Committed as the Result of His Appointment’
”I think the weakness of Mueller’s substantive findings are suggested by the fact that he has to resort to false statement prosecutions, which really shows that he didn’t start with very much, and that the very fact that he’s conducting an investigation has created these crimes,” Dershowitz told Bill Hemmer. “These are not crimes that had been committed prior to his appointment, they’re crimes that were committed as the result of his appointment, and that raises some questions about the role of special prosecutors in creating crimes, or creating opportunities for crimes to be committed.”
“In the end, I don’t think Mueller’s going to come up with very much, in terms of criminal conduct, that existed before he was appointed, and that’s pretty shocking,” added Dershowitz.
We saw with General Flynn with the ambush FBI interview that Comey told Congress that Flynn didn't lie during that ambush interview, but Mueller charged him anyway, and threatened to indict Flynn's son unless General Flynn pleaded guilty.

If you ask a dozen people to describe an event, you're not going to get a dozen identical answers. Pick the answer you like and charge the other 11 with lying.

And yes, Russia was the thing they were accused of lying about because that was the thing they were interrogated about.
If they'd been interrogated about who took Mike Pence's cupcake from the lunchroom, they'd have been accused of lying about the cupcake.

Dershowitz is right on the money. There was no underlying crime here. Obama and Comey and the gang knew it when they got the FISA warrants, and Rosenstein and Mueller knew it when Rosenstein appointed Mueller. The name of the game was always to try to manufacture process crimes, and then overcharge people. And to go after people on unrelated charges, like Manafort's back taxes, and use that as leverage to get people to go along with your narrative. But for the Mueller investigation, Manafort's taxes would never have been pursued and in the unlikely event they had, it would have been dealt with administratively by the IRS and a small fine levied.
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 2nd, 2018, 11:40 pm

Go on ranting for a couple of more pages, will you!
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 3rd, 2018, 2:15 am

A real effect of Trump: Overseas students turn away from US. This is only scratching the surface, but is a first order concern for anybody who cares about the future of higher education in this country. 
 
 
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 3rd, 2018, 12:30 pm

Anything to deflect attention from the real stories. A few conspiracy theories are always welcome among the dedicated Fox News watchers.
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 4th, 2018, 3:07 am

When the criminal in the White House twits, it sometimes gets funny. Especially the "President Trump" part. Tampering
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 4th, 2018, 12:03 pm

Dershowitz: Mueller’s Tactics Are ‘Common When You’re Dealing With The Mafia’ And ‘Terrorists’
Harvard law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz criticized the tactics special counsel Robert Mueller is using in an attempt to charge those close to President Donald Trump, accusing Mueller of “creating crimes” rather than uncovering them
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 4th, 2018, 12:33 pm

Dershowitz has a style all his own, but at least we can agree with him that Mueller is applying suitable tactics for the target at hand.
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 4th, 2018, 4:29 pm

Dershowitz has a style all his own, but at least we can agree with him that Mueller is applying suitable tactics for the target at hand.
I have no doubt you agree with Mueller, but Professor Dershowitz and I don't.
This is a variant of Beria's "Show me the man and I'll find you the crime" from Stalin's Russia.
Mueller is manufacturing process crimes against people associated with the president and then threatening those people with excessively long prison sentences unless they go along with his narrative.
Mueller and his gang aren't interested in the truth, they're interested in getting convictions and guilt or innocence is irrelevant.  
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 6th, 2018, 11:32 am

wait, ZTE was sanctioned for selling phones containing American parts to Iran and North Korea. I thought you were opposed to sanctions on Iran, at least judging by your rants about President Trump scrapping the Iran Nuclear Deal.

>> So, having traded off US law for making Xi happy

exactly WHAT US law? None.
President Trump decided to sanction ZTE by imposing a $1B fine and ZTE also is required to change its entire board of directors and executive team within 30 days. The US Government will also hold $400M of ZTE's money in escrow to guard against future violations.
No law has been broken here.
Some on Capitol Hill are unhappy, and are talking about changing the law, but that's different from saying that an existing law was brokn.
ZTE uses a lot of American-made parts, and the chi-comms were threatening to retaliate against US companies who (unfortunately) rely on Chinese-made parts.
I thought that you'd be happy that President Trump's skillful diplomacy has averted a trade war with China
Funny
Huawei also seems to have fallen foul of the iran sanctions.
Huawei CFO Wanzhou Meng — also deputy chairwoman and the daughter of Huawei’s founder — was arrested in Vancouver, Canada on December 1, and faces extradition to the U.S. as a result of a DOJ investigation into whether the Chinese telecom giant sold gear to Iran despite sanctions on exports to the region, China immediately lodged a formal protest publishing a statement at its embassy in Canada, and demanding the U.S. and its neighbor "rectify wrongdoings" and free Meng, warning it would "closely follow the development of the issue" and will "take all measures" to protect the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese citizens.
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

December 7th, 2018, 12:25 am

The president honored 8 Holocaust survivors during the WH Hanukkah ceremony, which took place on the evening of the fifth night of Hanukkah.

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