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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

June 2nd, 2020, 9:29 am

This is probably increasing the chance of you getting one of your wishes in November. So don’t fret so!
Not sure. Bunker Don has gawd on his side.

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June 2nd, 2020, 1:23 pm

Why did the bystanders not do anything? Because if they did they would have been shot dead.
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

June 2nd, 2020, 2:01 pm

This is probably increasing the chance of you getting one of your wishes in November. So don’t fret so!
Unfortunately, I don’t really think so. But it is progressing nicely along the classic banana republic playbook toward a coup. It’s too early to tell whether he will try to leverage the current disturbances to invent some enemy of the state that’s needs martial law to be crushed (or “dominated”), or hold off until October and have Barr arrest Biden. Or cancel the election altogether on account of Coronavirus, protesters, or just because only illegal aliens would be expected to vote. Many possibilities, most of them bad. The one outcome that I will rule out as highly implausible is Trump walking out of the White House as a loser.
 
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

June 2nd, 2020, 6:34 pm

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June 2nd, 2020, 11:00 pm

So there is this gentleman by the name of George Will. He is generally acknowledged as belonging to that extremely rare species of "conservative intellectual". Oddly, he and I are in total agreement that the Republican party in its current incarnation needs to be eradicated from holding any kind of political power, on account that they are rotten to the core. A brief quote from yesterday: "Senate Republicans must be routed, as condign punishment for their Vichyite collaboration". His language is nothing but colorful. In fact, I'm pretty sure he does not employ the much maligned "playbook" analogy.
 
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June 3rd, 2020, 12:55 am



You are right. That has something to do with what is happening in the streets at this very moment.

Judge: You're charge with 3 counts of looting. How do you plead?
Defendant: Absolutely not guilty, your honor! Because of Trump's racism, I felt compelled to lift a few sneakers! 
Lucky guy! he made it to court.
haha.  

While George Floyd's killing was an outrage, and one can certainly cite other evil examples, a counterpoint is
The Myth of Systemic Police Racism (wsj: paywall)
 
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June 3rd, 2020, 2:10 am

 Ah - yes, the entirely unbiased view of Rupert Murdoch. I guess we should all just go home now. Honestly, you're not that dumb?
 
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June 3rd, 2020, 2:33 am

So there is this gentleman by the name of George Will. He is generally acknowledged as belonging to that extremely rare species of "conservative intellectual". Oddly, he and I are in total agreement that the Republican party in its current incarnation needs to be eradicated from holding any kind of political power, on account that they are rotten to the core. A brief quote from yesterday: "Senate Republicans must be routed, as condign punishment for their Vichyite collaboration". His language is nothing but colorful. In fact, I'm pretty sure he does not employ the much maligned "playbook" analogy.
Here is the George Will article:

Trump must be removed. So must his congressional enablers. - Washington Post June 1

Even George W. Bush weighed in today too.

What has not been covered so much, from what I have seen, is the fact that thousands of people are marching and yelling for hours, some without masks, many without gloves, or other protective gear.  While we may sympathize with the cause, and naturally support the right to demonstrate, this may have very bad consequences.  We will know in 2-3 weeks.
 
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June 3rd, 2020, 3:28 am

 Ah - yes, the entirely unbiased view of Rupert Murdoch. I guess we should all just go home now. Honestly, you're not that dumb?
No, the article is by Heather Mac Donald. That tells me you didn't even read it. If you do, and have some argument against it beyond name calling, let's hear it.  
 
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June 3rd, 2020, 8:27 am




Judge: You're charge with 3 counts of looting. How do you plead?
Defendant: Absolutely not guilty, your honor! Because of Trump's racism, I felt compelled to lift a few sneakers! 
Lucky guy! he made it to court.
haha.  

While George Floyd's killing was an outrage, and one can certainly cite other evil examples, a counterpoint is
The Myth of Systemic Police Racism (wsj: paywall)
I can't read this because of pay wall; but judging by the title it implies some bad people bad doing bad things, but for the rest it's basically OK, yes?

Correct me if I am wrong.
White  middle America in denial, and that's not a river in Egypt.

Random example: A close family member lived in USA in the 40s. Systemic racism was default.
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June 3rd, 2020, 9:35 am

 Ah - yes, the entirely unbiased view of Rupert Murdoch. I guess we should all just go home now. Honestly, you're not that dumb?
Well, there you have it. Case closed.
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

June 3rd, 2020, 9:54 am

 Ah - yes, the entirely unbiased view of Rupert Murdoch. I guess we should all just go home now. Honestly, you're not that dumb?
No, the article is by Heather Mac Donald. That tells me you didn't even read it. If you do, and have some argument against it beyond name calling, let's hear it.  
OK, sorry, the name calling was out of line. That being said, Ms Mac Donald’s positions on police (good), people of color (not so good) and immigrants (bad) do line up pretty well with the News Corp editorial views. I haven’t read the journal since John Brecher and Dorothy Gaiter wrote the wine column, and then mostly for that. And as Cuch points out, it’s behind a paywall.
 
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June 3rd, 2020, 2:21 pm

OK, guys -- here's a link to the Mac Donald piece that will be valid for a few days -- fair use, IMO. I am genuinely interested in intelligent objections to it.
 
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June 3rd, 2020, 3:55 pm

OK, guys -- here's a link to the Mac Donald piece that will be valid for a few days -- fair use, IMO. I am genuinely interested in intelligent objections to it.
How can we determine if an objection is intelligent or not?
BTW I read the piece.At first reading it is rather facile and simplistic. MacDonald is in denial. I'll read it again and  get back.

There's a fallacy in that piece, but I can't yet put my finger on it (possibly the McNamara fallacy..) I thought WSJ would be more thorough.

It will be fun putting it through a sieve.
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

June 3rd, 2020, 6:42 pm

Re "how can we determine ..", as Justice Stewart famously said,
  "I know it when I see it."  :D
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