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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 11:15 pm
by bearish
So Trump will give a little campaign speech tonight. My guess is that the word “wall” will be used at least 17 times. Anybody for the under? Not that I plan to watch it and count, but I trust there will be a transcript we can grep.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 2:17 am
by bearish
Lying through his teeth, although no wall yet.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 2:35 am
by bearish
Hunker down! A tremendous onslaught is coming our way! The sky is falling! Must build a roof! Wait, ..., make that a wall!

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 3:07 am
by bearish
Slight vomit in mouth as he invokes the GOP god to limit abortion rights. Because he is so, like, born again. 

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 4:08 am
by bearish
Far more intelligent and educated people than me have dissected the blather and honed in on perhaps the only true statement in the hour and a half: there can be no partisan investigations of me.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 7:27 am
by ppauper
It was of course the (delayed) State of the Union speech last night, and there's a short clip here:
Trump Gets Dems’ Applause: ‘No One Has Benefitted More from Our Thriving Economy than Women’
For some reason, an awful lot of the democrats were wearing white.
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It seems the the president slayed last night, and his speech was very well-received by the American people

CNN: 59% Had 'Very Positive' View of Speech


CBS also found that 76 percent of viewers approved of what they heard in the president's SOTU speech and 72 percent said they approved of the president's ideas for immigration



The highlight of the speech seems to have been when the president said that America will never become a socialist country
"We stand with the Venezuelan people in their noble quest for freedom — and we condemn the brutality of the Maduro regime, whose socialist policies have turned that nation from being the wealthiest in South America into a state of abject poverty and despair," Trump said Tuesday night.
"Here, in the United States, we are alarmed by new calls to adopt socialism in our country," the president said. "America was founded on liberty and independence - not government coercion, domination, and control. We are born free, and we will stay free."
"Tonight, we renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country," Trump declared.
Amen to that, Mr President, and the country is in good hands

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 9:12 am
by ppauper
more from the State of the Union. Hopefully the troops will be coming hom from the mid-east soon.
Our brave troops have now been fighting in the Middle East for almost 19 years. In Afghanistan and Iraq, nearly 7,000 American heroes have given their lives. More than 52,000 Americans have been badly wounded. We have spent more than $7 trillion in the Middle East.
As a candidate for President, I pledged a new approach. Great nations do not fight endless wars.
When I took office, ISIS controlled more than 20,000 square miles in Iraq and Syria. Today, we have liberated virtually all of that territory from the grip of these bloodthirsty killers.
Now, as we work with our allies to destroy the remnants of ISIS, it is time to give our brave warriors in Syria a warm welcome home.
I have also accelerated our negotiations to reach a political settlement in Afghanistan. Our troops have fought with unmatched valor -- and thanks to their bravery, we are now able to pursue a political solution to this long and bloody conflict.
In Afghanistan, my Administration is holding constructive talks with a number of Afghan groups, including the Taliban. As we make progress in these negotiations, we will be able to reduce our troop presence and focus on counter-terrorism. We do not know whether we will achieve an agreement -- but we do know that after two decades of war, the hour has come to at least try for peace.
Above all, friend and foe alike must never doubt this Nation's power and will to defend our people. Eighteen years ago, terrorists attacked the USS Cole -- and last month American forces killed one of the leaders of the attack.
We are honored to be joined tonight by Tom Wibberley, whose son, Navy Seaman Craig Wibberley, was one of the 17 sailors we tragically lost. Tom: we vow to always remember the heroes of the USS Cole.
They've spent $7 TRILLION on stupid wars in the mid-east and they can't find $20 Billion for a wall?

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 11:07 am
by ExSan
It was of course the (delayed) State of the Union speech last night, and there's a short clip here:
Trump Gets Dems’ Applause: ‘No One Has Benefitted More from Our Thriving Economy than Women’
For some reason, an awful lot of the democrats were wearing white.
Image

It seems the the president slayed last night, and his speech was very well-received by the American people

CNN: 59% Had 'Very Positive' View of Speech


CBS also found that 76 percent of viewers approved of what they heard in the president's SOTU speech and 72 percent said they approved of the president's ideas for immigration



The highlight of the speech seems to have been when the president said that America will never become a socialist country
"We stand with the Venezuelan people in their noble quest for freedom — and we condemn the brutality of the Maduro regime, whose socialist policies have turned that nation from being the wealthiest in South America into a state of abject poverty and despair," Trump said Tuesday night.
"Here, in the United States, we are alarmed by new calls to adopt socialism in our country," the president said. "America was founded on liberty and independence - not government coercion, domination, and control. We are born free, and we will stay free."
"Tonight, we renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country," Trump declared.
Amen to that, Mr President, and the country is in good hands
He did it pretty well 

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 11:54 am
by bearish
He was entirely behind a bipartisan agenda of building the wall and closing down the investigations of him. Not to mention his roaring support of the fight against global warming!

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 4:26 pm
by Alan
It was of course the (delayed) State of the Union speech last night, and there's a short clip here:
Trump Gets Dems’ Applause: ‘No One Has Benefitted More from Our Thriving Economy than Women’
I thought it was a good speech. Usually I get bored with the SOTU and turn it off before the end, but watched this one all the way. Plus the "honored guests" were interesting too. I have to say, I am warming to Trump, esp. if he can actually get N. Korea to stand down permanently on the nukes, and acquiesces to some kind of amnesty on the current illegal population. Personally, I would give him his barrier extension as a sweetener for an ultimate amnesty deal. We'll see ...

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 4:41 pm
by Paul
Welcome to the dark side.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 6:40 pm
by Cuchulainn
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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 11:43 pm
by Cuchulainn
Just noticed the fasces!  Benito M. (Milano Centrale)

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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 7th, 2019, 12:34 am
by ppauper
not sure what your point is. They were there when Obama and Clinton gave SOTU addresses
The current decor dates to 1950 renovations
Symbolism in the Chamber
Some symbols from the Chamber’s old appearance survived, but with a fresh look. The wall behind the rostrum still includes decorative Roman fasces—a classical symbol of civic authority and unity—but stylized and in bronze rather than gilded iron. The Founding Fathers consciously cultivated an association with Republican Rome during the early years of the United States, and fasces used in the Chamber are an enduring symbol of that association. Fasces also reference the new philosophy of democracy that they envisioned for America. Like the thin rods bound together in fasces, the individual states achieve their strength and stability through their union under the federal government. The flag remains behind the Speaker’s chair, but it now punctuates a polished marble wall rather than panels of decorative cast iron floral reliefs.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: February 7th, 2019, 1:18 am
by Alan
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Good coin puzzle. Find the earliest U.S. coin with the fasces.

update. To answer my own question: looks like this Liberty dime is it, so the earliest would be 1916, the year it was introduced:

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I collected coins, but very little paper currency. Maybe somebody can find an earlier fasces on a US banknote, perhaps from a private US bank. There's some beautiful large images at wiki but haven't really looked through them.