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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 5th, 2019, 7:23 am
by ISayMoo
When the cost of insuring his seaside real estate investments increases sufficiently high. But by then it might be too late.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 5th, 2019, 10:07 am
by tw
In what conceivable world would Trump care about climate change?
This always seem the most apposite Trump meme to me.

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Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 5th, 2019, 11:13 am
by bearish
When the cost of insuring his seaside real estate investments increases sufficiently high. But by then it might be too late.

That sounds like a “national resort emergency” where select resort owners will be compensated by federal funds otherwise earmarked for food stamps.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 6th, 2019, 1:50 am
by bearish
So, the idiot went to Ireland. We could just stop there, but it's probably worth mentioning his good wishes to Varadkar on his great new Brexit border wall. Because walls be good!

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 7th, 2019, 1:38 am
by bearish
Nancy being much too nice. Prison seems far to lenient, even if he has to share a cell with the MS-13 gang leader known as Pitote.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 7th, 2019, 7:50 am
by ISayMoo
She seems determined to stop the Democrats from ever doing anything worthwhile.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 7th, 2019, 11:08 am
by bearish
She seems determined to stop the Democrats from ever doing anything worthwhile.
That’s an odd statement. You think she should let her less experienced colleagues in the House go ahead with impeachment proceedings? That would have the advantage of allowing for more public investigation of the bastard, but since there is zero chance that the Republicans in the Senate will convict him (utterly regardless of any factual matters), it would let him present himself as a “winner”, possibly just in time for the next elections.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 7th, 2019, 6:59 pm
by ISayMoo
As opposed to Dems not even trying? That'll be presented by him 
as a complete exoneration.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 7th, 2019, 10:08 pm
by bearish
OK, that's a fair point. And that is indeed what he did when Mueller didn't indict him. Of course, that was because Mueller is under the impression that a sitting president can't be indicted, but whatever. So, with apologies to Alfred Lord Tennyson, I guess the question is whether it is better to have him tried and failed than to live life wondering what if he had been tried. 

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 8th, 2019, 3:56 pm
by tw
OK, that's a fair point. And that is indeed what he did when Mueller didn't indict him. Of course, that was because Mueller is under the impression that a sitting president can't be indicted, but whatever. So, with apologies to Alfred Lord Tennyson, I guess the question is whether it is better to have him tried and failed than to live life wondering what if he had been tried. 
I guess the precedent here is Nixon
He resigned before impeachment and was given a full pardon and immunity from criminal prosecution by his successor, no?

If the the objective of the Democrats is to oust Trump and reverse what he has done then Pelosi’s stance seems logical.
Especially given the risk/reward of the situation.

If the objective is retribution and to have Trump publically condemned in the courts then the opposite looks the way to go.

The moral course of action seems pretty clear.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 2:00 am
by bearish
So, the bleeding orifice that is our president made this statement today:
 https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/12/politics ... index.htmlWe can only hope that he receives the punishment for the treason that he is inviting and committing, posthaste.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 2:09 am
by bearish
Of course, with an IQ in the 80's, there may be extenuating circumstances.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 3:03 pm
by ISayMoo
OK, that's a fair point. And that is indeed what he did when Mueller didn't indict him. Of course, that was because Mueller is under the impression that a sitting president can't be indicted, but whatever. So, with apologies to Alfred Lord Tennyson, I guess the question is whether it is better to have him tried and failed than to live life wondering what if he had been tried. 
I guess the precedent here is  Nixon
He resigned before impeachment and was given a full pardon and immunity from criminal prosecution by his successor, no?

If the the objective of the Democrats is to oust Trump and reverse what he has done then Pelosi’s stance seems logical.
Especially given the risk/reward of the situation.

If the objective is retribution and to have Trump publically condemned in the courts then the opposite looks the way to go.

The moral course of action seems pretty clear.
This is very short-sighted. What you failed to take into account is: how do you deter another Trump? Laws which are not being enforced start being ignored.

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 10:15 pm
by tw
OK, that's a fair point. And that is indeed what he did when Mueller didn't indict him. Of course, that was because Mueller is under the impression that a sitting president can't be indicted, but whatever. So, with apologies to Alfred Lord Tennyson, I guess the question is whether it is better to have him tried and failed than to live life wondering what if he had been tried. 
I guess the precedent here is  Nixon
He resigned before impeachment and was given a full pardon and immunity from criminal prosecution by his successor, no?

If the the objective of the Democrats is to oust Trump and reverse what he has done then Pelosi’s stance seems logical.
Especially given the risk/reward of the situation.

If the objective is retribution and to have Trump publically condemned in the courts then the opposite looks the way to go.

The moral course of action seems pretty clear.
This is very short-sighted. What you failed to take into account is: how do you deter another Trump? Laws which are not being enforced start being ignored.
Deter another Trump from what?  Obstruction of justice?
If you have an attorney general and a special counsel disputing the meaning of the same document then it is clear the legal waters are sufficiently 
muddied 
Trump's strategy (if that is what it is) is to do it all in plain sight, on Twitter and elsewhere in public, which I have a feeling will make him pretty much bulletproof.
If you allow attention to be diverted from the issues to the ad hominem then you have already lost.
The desire for a "silver bullet" resolution is a dangerous weakness.

 

Re: Trump -- the last 100 days

Posted: June 14th, 2019, 2:31 am
by bearish
There is only one problem with the "silver bullet" resolution. It's called President Pence.