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Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 4th, 2019, 9:45 pm
by Paul
Imagine a world in which locals drive delivery vans for Amazon. Where they have to pay higher wages. Wages that pay higher income tax, and much of the rest of the pay stays in the local economy. A world where Amazon makes less profit. But that doesn’t mean less tax, because you can’t pay less than zero anyway.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 4th, 2019, 9:52 pm
by Cuchulainn
A kind of Deliveroo ang gig ecoonomy but then for locals only.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 4th, 2019, 10:34 pm
by ISayMoo
Ending FOM means more job opportunities for the locals.
Depends on the jobs. You'll get no locals to pick strawberries
You forgot to add "at the same price the farmers can hire Eastern Europeans for".

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 4th, 2019, 10:36 pm
by ISayMoo
A kind of Deliveroo ang gig ecoonomy but then for locals only.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47110934

Question: why was Hermes easier to beat in court than Amazon?
Answer: because Hermes is not a global behemoth.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 4th, 2019, 10:37 pm
by ISayMoo
Of course, if Brexit results in a massive scaling back of London's finance industry and all the supporting functions (from lawyers and accountants to hotels and restaurants), maybe so many qualified people will repatriate to their home towns of Leicester and Sunderland as to crush the job market for those locals who never left home.
We're having tech companies replacing the banksters.
And [60,90]% will be foreign workers. 
And they will get Tier 2 visas, no questions asked.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 3:17 am
by katastrofa
Of course, if Brexit results in a massive scaling back of London's finance industry and all the supporting functions (from lawyers and accountants to hotels and restaurants), maybe so many qualified people will repatriate to their home towns of Leicester and Sunderland as to crush the job market for those locals who never left home.
We're having tech companies replacing the banksters.
And [60,90]% will be foreign workers. 
Is [60-90]% too little for Remainers who allegedly support the free movement?

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 8:53 am
by ISayMoo
Remainers like Vince Cable support increasing the cost of tuition for the locals, to make damn sure that the companies need to import workers from countries which invest in education, because the working class locals won't be able to afford going to the university.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 9:59 am
by Cuchulainn
[ltr]Britons lose chance for referral to European court on Brexit rights case[/ltr]




https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/02/b ... ghts-case/

the last chance for a European Court of Justice ruling before March 29th has now gone.

I suppose Britons will have to learn Dutch and take the mandatory course on Dutch culture and customs! Good luck.

It's a mess.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 10:28 am
by Paul
It's now "our" mess.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 10:55 am
by Cuchulainn
I think it's unfair. These people pay taxes and raise kids and then they get hassle through no fault of their own. 

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 5th, 2019, 11:25 am
by katastrofa
The pain of living in the society. We all pay taxes for things we don't necessarily support. Re kids, it's people's personal choice - those without children often contribute more positively to the societal and civilisational challenges, especially compared to the buggy-mowers.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 6:44 pm
by Cuchulainn
So, 50 days to go.
The EU will cave at the eleventh hour as it's all about da money, right.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 6th, 2019, 11:29 pm
by ppauper
Brexit Could Lead to Thousands More Deaths by 2030, Research Suggests
the argument seems to be that brits will eat less fresh produce because it will supposedly cost more. Not sure if that's because they have to pay the strawberry pickers more or because of import tariffs

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 7th, 2019, 4:57 am
by katastrofa
I'm more curious why they assumed that the prices of unhealthy foods, such as meat and dairy, won't increase too, effectively forcing people to buy and eat the healthier and still relatively cheaper plant-based food.
A couple of days ago I was travelling with a bunch of guys whom I'd have suspected of being typical Remainers (most of them typical min-age, i.e. 30-40, British guys). Since it was late and we were all hungry, we started chatting about food and health. They went on cursing the EU for, first of all, the plastic problem, then the absurd product quality requirements (no wonky vegetables and fruits, no worms and dirt on them!), GMO (not as a scientific method, but the EU control and regulations of the procedures, which are either suspiciously vague or destructive to the environment), and the general excessive bureaucracy inspired the Moloh the EU is.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: February 7th, 2019, 7:53 am
by ISayMoo
About the GMO: other people blame the EU for blocking the development of GMO agriculture in the UK. Someone must be wrong, they can't all be right about this?