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katastrofa
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Re: General Election 2019

November 15th, 2019, 11:44 pm

E.g. in East London.
How long have you lived in E London?
Longer than you.
 
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ISayMoo
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Re: General Election 2019

November 15th, 2019, 11:48 pm

I think they jumped the shark with "let's nationalise BT Openreach to give people free broadband". I kind of understand why they say they want to nationalise railways (people are dissatisfied with the current state of rail services in the UK, the private companies are seen as rent seekers, the tracks are nationalised anyway and some of the "private" rail companies are foreign state railway companies, like Trenitalia which runs the C2C line or Deutsche Bahn). But BT? Even if we accept the premise that broadband access needs to be free (and not simply affordable and easy to obtain), then spending £20bln pounds to buy out a part of BT just to provide free Internet is nonsense. It's nationalising for the sake of nationalising.
 
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ISayMoo
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Re: General Election 2019

November 15th, 2019, 11:50 pm

E.g. in East London.
How long have you lived in E London?
Longer than you.
So long that Katastrofa started wearing hijab and has a Jihadi cat.
 
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Paul
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Re: General Election 2019

November 16th, 2019, 12:09 am

I think they jumped the shark with "let's nationalise BT Openreach to give people free broadband". I kind of understand why they say they want to nationalise railways (people are dissatisfied with the current state of rail services in the UK, the private companies are seen as rent seekers, the tracks are nationalised anyway and some of the "private" rail companies are foreign state railway companies, like Trenitalia which runs the C2C line or Deutsche Bahn). But BT? Even if we accept the premise that broadband access needs to be free (and not simply affordable and easy to obtain), then spending £20bln pounds to buy out a part of BT just to provide free Internet is nonsense. It's nationalising for the sake of nationalising.
But who better to control communications than commies? One of the lessons that Corbyn learned riding around East Germany on his motorbike was how to spy on your neighbors perhaps?
 
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Re: General Election 2019

November 16th, 2019, 12:15 am

I was in a bus in Coventry two weeks ago. For the first time in my life I saw CCTV images of the palette of my head and I noticed I was going slightly bald. I was shocked.
JC's idea is just coals to Newcastle. A tight ship.
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Re: General Election 2019

November 16th, 2019, 1:00 am

E.g. in East London.
How long have you lived in E London?
Longer than you.
Tell me, how many times have you eaten here/

https://spitalfieldslife.com/2013/03/27/so-long-sweet-spicy/

A true experience..
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katastrofa
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Re: General Election 2019

November 16th, 2019, 1:20 am

It's no longer trendy. It's a tourist spot now. That shop was closed and replaced by a place which stinks the same rancid oil. I don't think I would survive such an experience. I used to go to Mooshies two blocks further, where I sipped camomile tea looking at the pastoral scene of ISayMoo tucking in his vegan burgers. I rarely eat in the street - I cook at home or someone cooks for me. But sometimes the hunger is stronger than my sense of taste:
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(Midnight, after a conference and meetings.)
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ISayMoo
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Re: General Election 2019

November 16th, 2019, 1:21 am

I think they jumped the shark with "let's nationalise BT Openreach to give people free broadband". I kind of understand why they say they want to nationalise railways (people are dissatisfied with the current state of rail services in the UK, the private companies are seen as rent seekers, the tracks are nationalised anyway and some of the "private" rail companies are foreign state railway companies, like Trenitalia which runs the C2C line or Deutsche Bahn). But BT? Even if we accept the premise that broadband access needs to be free (and not simply affordable and easy to obtain), then spending £20bln pounds to buy out a part of BT just to provide free Internet is nonsense. It's nationalising for the sake of nationalising.
But who better to control communications than commies? One of the lessons that Corbyn learned riding around East Germany on his motorbike was how to spy on your neighbors perhaps?
Maybe similar to the lessons learned by Dominic Cummings doing unspecified business deals in Putin's Russia?
 
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ISayMoo
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Re: General Election 2019

November 16th, 2019, 1:23 am

It's no longer trendy. It's a tourist spot now. That shop was closed and replaced by a place which stinks the same rancid oil. I don't think I would survive such an experience. I used to go to Mooshies two blocks further, where I sipped camomile tea looking at the pastoral scene of ISayMoo tucking in his vegan burgers.
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katastrofa
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Re: General Election 2019

November 16th, 2019, 2:39 am

That's me other few blocks up Bricklane - at Dark Sugars! :-D

@nationalising for the sake of nationalising

State media, as Paul says. Intentionally or not, they are creating a powerful tool against democracy.
 
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ISayMoo
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Re: General Election 2019

November 16th, 2019, 12:24 pm

We already have BBC, which is quite subservient to the government.

State owned comms infrastructure is a different proposition. But MI5 can listen in anyway, nationalised broadband or not.
 
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ISayMoo
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Re: General Election 2019

November 16th, 2019, 12:29 pm

But who better to control communications than commies? One of the lessons that Corbyn learned riding around East Germany on his motorbike was how to spy on your neighbors perhaps?
Coming back to this one... I know a guy who worked for one of the largest private hosting providers in the UK. He claimed that it wasn't exactly a great secret that the GCHQ was able to listen in on the traffic in their network. I think maybe only Google is rich enough and has enough talent to be able to defend itself from government-level hacking.

So I don't think it makes a difference, privacy-wise, whether the Internet infrastructure is privately owned. MI5, GCHQ, NSA - they can all listen in anyway, and do, no matter whether the Tories or Labour are in power. Only strong encryption and security practices will help you.
 
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ISayMoo
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Re: General Election 2019

November 16th, 2019, 1:45 pm

https://twitter.com/theJeremyVine/status/1195613856594366464

John Curtice says the Tories have a 2/3 chance of a majority, and Labour ~0%.
 
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Re: General Election 2019

November 16th, 2019, 2:11 pm

E.g. in East London.
How long have you lived in E London?
Longer than you.
I have never in E London. 
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Re: General Election 2019

November 16th, 2019, 2:11 pm

E.g. in East London.
How long have you lived in E London?
Longer than you.
I have never lived in E London. 
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http://www.datasim.nl

Every Time We Teach a Child Something, We Keep Him from Inventing It Himself
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