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Re: The vaccines

November 22nd, 2021, 11:51 am

Sweden that was an open society during all of covid (anti-lock down) in recent months has lowest death rates in Europe.

We can speculate why, I think perhaps they got natural heard immunity, but too early to say. Vaccine % about same as in Norway, and we have way way higher death rates in Norway in recent months. Accumulated death much higher, but big part of this likely come from something political avoid to discuss, they have twice the amount of non western immigrants as Norway, and these groups both Norway health authorities and Sweden health authorises knew long before covid had much more often lack of D vitamins. They have been strongly over represented on death statistics etc...If u come from area with much sun all year around u have culture to hide from sun (make sense there, not here). in Norway Sweden culture to lay almost naken to get tanned even in spring..and perhaps food rich in D also..
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10220541/Sweden-Western-Europes-LOWEST-Covid-infection-rate.html

Bearish and Biden wants complete lock down and mandatory triple vaccines up the arse (?), not sure if it is the smartest strategy, but very Austria-German style kind off. Luckily they have Texas.

Much of death in Sweden and Norway is likely due to complete neglect of research on D vitamins, and ignorance of groups one knew had often D lack even before Covid hit. It is criminal how health authorise have ignored D vit even in gropes they knew were at very high risk of lack of D and where death rates have been high, they have let people die and suffer.
 
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November 22nd, 2021, 12:16 pm

Berlin: "pretty much everyone in Germany will be vaccinated, cured or dead," Spahn  (Health minister )..."Spahn also said he considered it justifiable that unvaccinated employees who had to go into quarantine should have their pay docked."

will they have docking stations?
 
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November 22nd, 2021, 12:33 pm

" Accumulated death much higher" in Sweden, they did not protect the elderly well enough early on, but non western immigrants where hit hard, strongly over represented...and one knew before covid  that they much more often had lack of D.

Norway health authorities did long report on why non western immigrants had been hit so hard, they found no good explanation, they had not mentioned D vit with one word in report as possible explanation. But knew years before from own studies these groups often low on D vit serum levels.
 
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Re: The vaccines

November 22nd, 2021, 1:43 pm

Sweden that was an open society during all of covid (anti-lock down) in recent months has lowest death rates in Europe.

We can speculate why, I think perhaps they got natural heard immunity, but too early to say. Vaccine % about same as in Norway, and we have way way higher death rates in Norway in recent months. Accumulated death much higher, but big part of this likely come from something political avoid to discuss, they have twice the amount of non western immigrants as Norway, and these groups both Norway health authorities and Sweden health authorises knew long before covid had much more often lack of D vitamins. They have been strongly over represented on death statistics etc...If u come from area with much sun all year around u have culture to hide from sun (make sense there, not here). in Norway Sweden culture to lay almost naken to get tanned even in spring..and perhaps food rich in D also..

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10220541/Sweden-Western-Europes-LOWEST-Covid-infection-rate.html

Bearish and Biden wants complete lock down and mandatory triple vaccines up the arse (?), not sure if it is the smartest strategy, but very Austria-German style kind off. Luckily they have Texas.

Much of death in Sweden and Norway is likely due to complete neglect of research on D vitamins, and ignorance of groups one knew had often D lack even before Covid hit. It is criminal how health authorise have ignored D vit even in gropes they knew were at very high risk of lack of D and where death rates have been high, they have let people die and suffer.
I am not a fan of general lockdowns at this stage. Harsh treatment of the non-vaccinated, on the other hand - please bring it on! I fully support vaccine requirements for employees, students, and customers of bars, restaurants, gyms, etc.
 
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November 22nd, 2021, 2:33 pm

"Harsh treatment of the non-vaccinated, on the other hand - please bring it on! "

so you are especially harsh for those under 5.  Well sorry I am strongly in disagreement with you there, treat the children more nicely I would say, even those with horns!

"CDC recommends everyone ages 5 and older get a COVID-19 vaccine to help protect against COVID-19." 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... teens.html
 
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Re: The vaccines

November 22nd, 2021, 5:22 pm

Sadly there's no East Germany for bearish to move to. He's hated David Hasselhoff since 1989.
 
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November 22nd, 2021, 7:07 pm

COVID-19: stigmatising the unvaccinated is not justified in the Lancet

"Historically, both the USA and Germany have engendered negative experiences by stigmatising parts of the population for their skin colour or religion. I call on high-level officials and scientists to stop the inappropriate stigmatisation of unvaccinated people,"

naturally totally irrelevant for Bearish, he wants Harsh treatment of anyone that can increase the covid-risk for old bitter men even by a tad....He is a racistic agains people without spike proteins...  well the Lancet article call on on high-level scientists, so bearish is excused...
 
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November 22nd, 2021, 9:46 pm

correction
naturally totally irrelevant for Bearish, he wants Harsh treatment of anyone that Hypothetically can increase 
 
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November 25th, 2021, 2:51 pm

Stigmatized for standing up for my child

" social isolation, and status loss and discrimination"..."a range of social and psychological effects, as well as financial effects from policies which disadvantaged their children"

""I got harassed by a bunch of cousins …. and I found out that a whole bunch of them had started a group, a secret group, and were bitching about me.”

is he there now? in the secret group?
 
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November 25th, 2021, 6:52 pm

Why Don’t We Have a Covid Vaccine for Pets?

"By the fall of 2020, Zoetis had four promising candidates for a vaccine, each of which elicited “robust” antibody responses in cats and dogs, the company announced."

"But vaccinating pets is simply not a priority, experts said." Yet (babies first ;-?

"“I think that the situation in mink absolutely warrants a vaccine,” Dr. Lennon said."
 
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November 25th, 2021, 7:02 pm

sorry pets have to wait a bit still:

Covid-19: US and China prepare for mass vaccination of children under 12

"While dozens of countries are vaccinating adolescents over 12, China and the US will join only a small handful that are immunising younger children. Cuba began on 16 September, vaccinating children aged 2-10 with its homegrown Abdala and Soberana vaccines. "

no written complains from any 2 year old yet, so clearly excellent products! 
 
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November 25th, 2021, 7:31 pm

"How can it be ethical to vaccinate mass populations of children against SARS-CoV-2 to protect the elderly if most SARS-CoV-2 infections in children are mild, and severe COVID-19 disease in children is rare?"

According to Reuters, Ruud Dobber, a member of Astra's senior executive team, said "This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in...four years the vaccine is showing side effects. So AstraZeneca has been granted protection from future product liability, and children around the world will be left with the risk of side effects in order to supposedly protect the elderly."  Biden policy and his followers...

Is it ethical to vaccinate children to protect the elderly?
 
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November 25th, 2021, 9:20 pm

"First, where is the data justifying inoculation for children, much less most people under forty? It's not found on Fig. 1, where the most vulnerable are almost exclusively the elderly with many comorbidities. Yet, in the USA, Pfizer has been approved to inoculate children 12–17 (NOW down to 5 year olds), and the goal is to accomplish this by the start of the school year in the Fall. As stated previously, there are plans to inoculate children as young as six months starting before the end of 2021. 

What is the rush for a group at essentially zero risks?  Given that the inoculations were tested only for a few months, only very short-term adverse effects could be obtained. It is questionable how well even these short-term effects obtained from the clinical trials reflect the short-term effects from the initial mass inoculation results reported in VAERS.

Why are we vaccinating children against COVID-19?
 
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November 25th, 2021, 9:49 pm

"Bears, baboons, tigers are getting COVID vaccines at zoos across the U.S." (and in Cuba)

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/bears-baboons-tigers-are-getting-covid-vaccines-at-zoos-across-the-us

if not vaxed, killed https://www.nbcnews.com/news/animal-news/here-s-why-denmark-culled-17-million-minks-now-plans-n1249610. kind of a bit harsh to the unvaxed, indeed.

"As the COVID-19 pandemic drags on, the Animal Welfare Institute (AWI) is urging the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) to revise its guidelines to no longer permit killing animals by inducing heat stroke, a method known as “ventilation shutdown plus.”" "operators seal the barn, turn off the airflow, and add heat and sometimes steam to raise the temperature as high as 170 degrees. The process can take hours and cause extreme distress."

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November 25th, 2021, 10:57 pm

170 degrees F is 76.6 C. That is mass murder in a half warm sauna, take indeed several hours to die at so low temp. I guess it was the cheapest way to get rid of some non-vaxed....