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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 4th, 2018, 6:38 pm

will UK stick to the Paris agreement after brexit? and will Gilets Jaunes stick to it ?
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 4th, 2018, 6:52 pm

ppauper is a far right and white supremacist troll here
But ppauper is *OUR* far right and white supremacist troll
I'm a traditional conservative republican

cuch is the one with the white supremacist symbol as his icon (Neo Celtic Reconstructionism is a gateway to white supremacy?)
And bearish, who supports the use of Nazi imagery (the Tyr rune a while back), views anyone to the right of Pol Pot as "far right."


But what does any of that have to do with the issue at hand?
Brexit is not a left-right issue and support for and opposition to Brexit crossed party lines.

Last I checked, the UK, Ireland, and the EU were mostly white.  If the UK leaves the EU, white immigration (from the EU) will likely drop with non-white non-EU immigration rising. That makes the remoaners a bunch of white supremacists
To clear up a couple of matters, I’m a mild mannered person with limited interest in politics in general who tend to hold liberal views on social matters, slightly right of center on economic matters, with a strong belief in science and rationality and corresponding disdain for religion. Lest it wasn’t clear from some of my other posts, I do hate Trump and his enablers. On the matter of Brexit and many other current burning issues (climate included), it is obviously not so much a matter of the old left vs right as the new urbane educated globalist vs national populists (to borrow a phrase from Steve Bannon). But, if you are with Bannon (or Farage or Le Pen), you also get very close to a lot of stuff that can only politely be described as “far right”.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 4th, 2018, 6:55 pm

will UK stick to the Paris agreement after brexit? and will Gilets Jaunes stick to it ?
It’s an interesting question whether the burning of a car is a net positive or negative from an emissions perspective. In the short run it surely looks bad.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 5th, 2018, 12:09 am

will UK stick to the Paris agreement after brexit? and will Gilets Jaunes stick to it ?
It’s an interesting question whether the burning of a car is a net positive or negative from an emissions perspective. In the short run it surely looks bad.
"From a particulate emissions perspective, little data have been reported in the literature to date. In the Lonnemark et al. [2006] vehicle fire study, particle size distribution measurements indicated significant submicrometer components for both particle number and mass. These findings suggest that the particulate component of vehicle fire emissions is of a size capable of reaching the gas exchange regions of lungs, where clearance mechanisms are least effective. Furthermore, PAHs were also indicated in both the vapor and particulate phases. These small particles may therefore provide a vector for not only depositing potential carcinogens, such as PAHs, into the deep lung tissues, but also onto the skin. 

"High levels (in excess of STELs) of CO, formaldehyde, acrolein, hydrogen chloride, hydrogren cyanide, sulphuric acid, and hydrogen fluoride have been reported "

 CDC.gov
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 5th, 2018, 10:22 am

from some of my other posts, I do hate Trump and his enablers. On the matter of Brexit and many other current burning issues (climate included), it is obviously not so much a matter of the old left vs right as the new urbane educated globalist vs national populists (to borrow a phrase from Steve Bannon).
You're falling for Bannon's trick, which is: convince people that the only option, if you're not happy with globalisation and lack of democratic accountability of supra-national institutions controlling it, is to join the nationalist extreme right. *This* is bollocks.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 5th, 2018, 10:23 am

will UK stick to the Paris agreement after brexit?
Why wouldn't it?
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 5th, 2018, 11:19 am

cuch is the one with the white supremacist symbol as his icon (Neo Celtic Reconstructionism is a gateway to white supremacy?)

No, you white suprematist socialists  hijacked our symbols, sagas and myths, Just like Wagner hijacked Tristan und Isolde, then later by the Nazis from Illinois.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 6th, 2018, 10:27 pm

will UK stick to the Paris agreement after brexit?
Why wouldn't it?
to save the world form world hunger? Food is created using merely energy from solar panels and freely available CO2  would vegans eat it? depends on CO2 source: from breath of animals or from burning of trees.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 6th, 2018, 11:07 pm

To save the world from hunger we need to change the distribution of wealth, not abandon climate plans.
You're creating a false alternative.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 6th, 2018, 11:34 pm

To save the world from hunger we need to change the distribution of wealth, not abandon climate plans.
You're creating a false alternative.
i was just speculating in British tinkering ( = P ?). 

 To save the world from hunger we need to not destroy the soil and our seeds, it happens many places! And people seems to not understand that  they vote every time they buy something to eat (as well as many other products). Use your voting right every day! Dont complain if things not in favor on election day, blame yourself from voting wrong every day. 
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 7th, 2018, 6:17 am

To save the world from hunger we need to change the distribution of wealth, not abandon climate plans.
You're creating a false alternative.
You don't need to change the distribution, just shift it to the right.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 7th, 2018, 11:37 am

Assuming a fixed price of vital necessities, true. But there isn't an unlimited amount of wealth in the world, and the illusion that it is so is one of the reasons for the climate catastrophe.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 7th, 2018, 5:01 pm

To save the world from hunger we need to change the distribution of wealth, not abandon climate plans.
You're creating a false alternative.
i was just speculating in British tinkering ( = P ?). 

 To save the world from hunger we need to not destroy the soil and our seeds, it happens many places! And people seems to not understand that  they vote every time they buy something to eat (as well as many other products). Use your voting right every day! Dont complain if things not in favor on election day, blame yourself from voting wrong every day. 
It's not easy when all we know about food we buy is whether it is EU or non-EU agriculture.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 7th, 2018, 5:50 pm

u must go to the local farmer, watch how take care of the plants, find out what seeds used, smell the fertilizer, or even better grow your own food, get skin in the earth! good labeling in stores would make it easier.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 7th, 2018, 6:43 pm

No se puede if you live in central London.
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