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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 14th, 2018, 9:57 am

We'll have to pay 7 euros for a three-year visa to visit the EU. Hahaha! A bit of a damp squib from Project Fear!
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 14th, 2018, 12:41 pm

We'll have to pay 7 euros for a three-year visa to visit the EU. Hahaha! A bit of a damp squib from Project Fear!
That's nothing. In the old days I had to go to the police station every five years to renew the right to remain in the country. It cost 100 guilders and no gezellige kopje koffie!

Then the EU entered the fray. The rest is history.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 14th, 2018, 4:13 pm

found it
Brexit: No visa but Britons will pay €7 to travel to EU countries
Britons will have to pay €7 (£6.30) every three years to travel to EU countries, as a consequence of Brexit.
The European Commission has confirmed that while UK travellers will not need a visa, they will need to apply for and buy another document.
It is called an ETIAS (European Travel Information and Authorization System) and although not launched yet, is expected to come into force in 2021.
The travel requirement is not just for the UK but for many non-EU countries.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's a duck
They may be calling it "an ETIAS (European Travel Information and Authorization System)" but other than the name, it seems to be a visa
So it is introducing the ETIAS - an electronic application form - which is Europe's version of the United States' $14 ESTA, although as the EU Commission points out, it is "way cheaper".
7 Euros is about $7.90. I'm not sure whether I'd go as far as to say that $7.90 is "way cheaper" than $15
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 14th, 2018, 4:25 pm

 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 14th, 2018, 5:42 pm

We know from the game theory that cartels are not stable. Neither are their bosses.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 14th, 2018, 10:25 pm

Here’s a sequence of events that I think will be fun:

May’s deal doesn’t pass
Nor does remaining
Nor does a second referendum
Article 50 gets extended
We get to 29 March
Half of the population say it’s No Deal and we are now out, half say we are still in
Lawsuits start flying
A second referendum happens
There is a general strike
The referendum is boycotted by leavers

And during all this the EU’s implosion continues.

Feel free to make up other fun scenarios!
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 14th, 2018, 10:46 pm

What EU implosion? It looks like Westminster implosion to me. EU seems to be pretty stable right now.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 15th, 2018, 12:01 am

Feel free to make up other fun scenarios!

The 6 counties joins the Free State and all your problems are solved.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 15th, 2018, 1:23 am

Feel free to make up other fun scenarios!

The 6 counties joins the Free State and all your problems are solved.
If that could happen in a peaceful manner, and if the EU would accept an independent (but rather poor) Scotland as a legacy member, and if London was (were?) granted a very special status, the whole Brexit thing would be a walk in the park!
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 15th, 2018, 11:09 am

Feel free to make up other fun scenarios!

The 6 counties joins the Free State and all your problems are solved.
If that could happen in a peaceful manner, and if the EU would accept an independent (but rather poor) Scotland as a legacy member, and if London was (were?) granted a very special status, the whole Brexit thing would be a walk in the park!
Indeed. Then England + Wales in splendid (not) isolation. Minus London.

My house is about 2 km from the 'border'. It's invisible these days and only in people's heads.
A friend's house his living room in the South and  bedroom in the North.

I would say keep Good Friday Agreement and if you can't (or won't) then plan B is to give Ireland back to the Irish. Even in rugby, hockey, boxing there are all-Ireland teams.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 15th, 2018, 12:38 pm

My house is about 2 km from the 'border'. It's invisible these days and only in people's heads.
are you sure you actually have a house?
If it's invisible and only in people's heads, I'm not convinced.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 15th, 2018, 3:12 pm

Feel free to make up other fun scenarios!

The 6 counties joins the Free State and all your problems are solved.
If there's a majority for it on both sides of the Border, I'm A-OK with it. Have fun with the DUP.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 15th, 2018, 9:22 pm

 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 16th, 2018, 10:48 am

No Deal Brexit petition has 138k signatures
at the time I posted it, and climbing fast
Parliament will consider this for a debate
Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate
Waiting for 1 day for a debate date
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

December 16th, 2018, 11:32 am

The madness of Jean-Claude Juncker.
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