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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 8th, 2019, 7:01 pm

Boris gave him big hug on the steps of Number 10. Any port in a storm.
He is Jewish Italian. Like Primo Levi.
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 8th, 2019, 7:04 pm

If you read history as carefully as you read a 14-word sentence...!!!!
Not true; it's 13 words and ONE letter! In C++, 'A' is a letter and "A" is a word. 
I'm not sure that's helping your case!!!
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 8th, 2019, 7:07 pm

At least in WWII they didn’t take a view on Naziism.
Who told you that?
Wikipedia. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is..."
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 8th, 2019, 7:10 pm

At least in WWII they didn’t take a view on Naziism.
Who told you that?
Wikipedia. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is..."
Ah, got it. you mean The Emergency

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emergency_(Ireland)

Now that you mention it, it was Frank Aiken who was responsible for drawing  up plans. Long story..
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 8th, 2019, 7:23 pm

Google translate:

"Troubles" = "Terrorism"

"Emergency" = "World War"

"A Bit of a Bother" = "Attempted extinction of an entire race"

And I thought British understatement was something!
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 9th, 2019, 8:20 am

On  the contrary, it was not called an Emergency for nothing, big shortage of sugar and tea.
We did learn something during the last 800 years!
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 9th, 2019, 8:29 am

A new low for Ireland, collaborating with Germany over annexing part of another country. At least in WWII they didn’t take a view on Naziism.
They did. Ireland was neutral but pro-Allies.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 9th, 2019, 8:31 am

At least in WWII they didn’t take a view on Naziism.
Who told you that?
Wikipedia. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is..."
Ireland joining the war on the Allied side would actually aid the Nazis. As a neutral country, they had good hope of not being invaded by Germany. Whereas them joining the war as a belligerent on the Allied side would bring little benefit to the UK (Ireland did not have a strong army) but add a lot of territory to defend. Imagine the consequences of Germany invading Ireland and establishing naval and air bases there... All marine traffic from the USA to the UK went around Ireland.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 9th, 2019, 8:59 am

At least in WWII they didn’t take a view on Naziism.
Who told you that?
Wikipedia. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is..."
Ireland joining the war on the Allied side would actually aid the Nazis. As a neutral country, they had good hope of not being invaded by Germany. Whereas them joining the war as a belligerent on the Allied side would bring little benefit to the UK (Ireland did not have a strong army) but add a lot of territory to defend. Imagine the consequences of Germany invading Ireland and establishing naval and air bases there... All marine traffic from the USA to the UK went around Ireland.
Once the Wehrmacht were being followed by the RAF. One of the offloaded bombs they dropped in our garden, leaving a yuge  hole.
We learned a lot of German songs at school, some of them were even translated into Gaelic. Catchy tunes, it was years later .. The Nazis appropriated and destroyed German culture. 

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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 9th, 2019, 9:08 am

A new low for Ireland, collaborating with Germany over annexing part of another country. At least in WWII they didn’t take a view on Naziism.
They did. Ireland was neutral but pro-Allies.
70,000 Irishmen fought for the Allies.

Some home truths: WWII was won at Stalingrad by the Russians. Normandy, El Alamein and Arnhem were side-shows.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 9th, 2019, 10:18 am

Imagine singing this as you march on a Donegal beach with your class mates

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI-dyeLiizo
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 9th, 2019, 4:07 pm

At least in WWII they didn’t take a view on Naziism.
Who told you that?
Wikipedia. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is..."
Ireland joining the war on the Allied side would actually aid the Nazis. As a neutral country, they had good hope of not being invaded by Germany. Whereas them joining the war as a belligerent on the Allied side would bring little benefit to the UK (Ireland did not have a strong army) but add a lot of territory to defend. Imagine the consequences of Germany invading Ireland and establishing naval and air bases there... All marine traffic from the USA to the UK went around Ireland.
That’s silly! When was being neutral a guaranteed defence against being invaded?!
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 9th, 2019, 4:09 pm

A new low for Ireland, collaborating with Germany over annexing part of another country. At least in WWII they didn’t take a view on Naziism.
They did. Ireland was neutral but pro-Allies.
70,000 Irishmen fought for the Allies.

Some home truths: WWII was won at Stalingrad by the Russians. Normandy, El Alamein and Arnhem were side-shows.
And very brave they were too.

Changing the topic, are we?!
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 9th, 2019, 5:11 pm

I've said many times I know nothing about history and care even less. (I get most history from James Michener.) I find such talk tedious. If I ever get involved it is usually to wind people up, Cuch and ISM mainly! Mentioning Germans is guaranteed to trigger some people! (And I have many Germans in my family.)

It does seem to be an Eastern European habit, and the Irish. To me it's loser talk. It's as bad as being married, like having all old arguments that you've long forgotten being warmed up. Some people here clearly haven't been married long enough!

I never look back. The future is more important. It's also very British not to talk about family achievements etc. (Although I am pretty sure no one in my family has ever achieved anything.)
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

October 10th, 2019, 1:18 am

Don't mention the war!
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