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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 24th, 2019, 12:43 pm

Remember how Remainers were using the example of Galileo as this wonderful EU project we are giving up on by exiting the EU?

It's actually in a state best described using the technical term "clusterfuck".
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 2:04 pm

Nah, it was the soon-to-arrive chlorinated chicken that stuck in the craw. A chicken's nothing but a bird.
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 3:00 pm

If you don't like it, stop eating chicken.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 5:56 pm

If you don't like it, stop eating chicken.
We live in the EU, so no chlorinated chicken CC for us.It's not fair.

I spoke to an English lady (possibly an exiter) and I asked her was she not worried about CC. In a magic moment of blind doublethink she retorted that they had been eating chlorinated salad for years. End of discussion. The tabloids have a lot to answer for. They are very clever.

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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 6:35 pm

One of the interesting things about that unredacted document, the one all the  fuss is about, is the difference between the US and EU approaches to, well, everything. It seems that the difference between the legal systems also applies to business. I.e. in the US anything goes unless it is forbidden. In the EU the opposite is true. You can't do anything unless some bureaucrat has given it the OK. I know which I prefer!
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 6:48 pm

Nice try. Well, just ask Liam Fox to eat CC. 
Anyways, it's your party after January 31,2020. It was a dish for old Caesar, also King Henry the Third but Columbus was smart, said, "you can't fool me
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 6:57 pm

Now I got it! The nice but misguided lady I was talking to got her cue from Liam Fox. OMG. The media is almighty.

Liam Fox has defended the controversial practice of disinfecting chicken with chlorine, reopening a cabinet rift over whether post-Brexit food standards should be lowered to facilitate a trade deal with the US.

“There are no health reasons why you couldn’t eat chickens that have been washed in chlorinated water,” the trade secretary told MPs when asked whether there was anything wrong with the process. “Most of the salads in our supermarkets are rinsed in chlorinated water,” he said.

Corollary: Salads do not contain SALMONELLA.
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 9:51 pm

As a regular consumer of chlorinated chicken, I have no issues with it at all, per se. The underlying problem that a certain style of factory farming results in chickens that need to be aggressively disinfected is real. But, it's not like I would eat chicken sashimi anywhere outside of Japan, anyway, and even there I might frown upon it (as I eat it). 
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 9:53 pm

Now I got it! The nice but misguided lady I was talking to got her cue from Liam Fox. OMG. The media is almighty.

Liam Fox has defended the controversial practice of disinfecting chicken with chlorine, reopening a cabinet rift over whether post-Brexit food standards should be lowered to facilitate a trade deal with the US.

“There are no health reasons why you couldn’t eat chickens that have been washed in chlorinated water,” the trade secretary told MPs when asked whether there was anything wrong with the process. “Most of the salads in our supermarkets are rinsed in chlorinated water,” he said.

Corollary: Salads do not contain SALMONELLA.
Ummm, sadly lettuce and sprouts and other salad ingredients are routinely recalled for making people ill from salmonella as well as e. coli. Sorry!
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 10:02 pm

No true salad would be found in plastic.
Over the course of a five-day refrigeration – a typical storage time for a bagged salad – 100 Salmonella pathogens multiplied into more than 100,000 bacteria. Salad juices also helped the Salmonella to attach itself to the salad leaves so strongly that even vigorous water washing could not remove the bacteria. Salad leaf juice also enhanced the pathogen’s ability to attach to the plastic bags and containers used to contain salads for sale. Most concerning was that we found that exposure to the juices released from the salad leaves appeared to enhance the Salmonella’s capacity to establish an infection in the consumer.
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 10:13 pm

I think the conclusion is that salmonella is a storm in an eggcup.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 10:15 pm

One of the interesting things about that unredacted document, the one all the  fuss is about, is the difference between the US and EU approaches to, well, everything. It seems that the difference between the legal systems also applies to business. I.e. in the US anything goes unless it is forbidden. In the EU the opposite is true. You can't do anything unless some bureaucrat has given it the OK. I know which I prefer!
It seems to be generally agreed that Labour was lying about this document. I only got about 20% of the way through and it seemed quite encouraging if anything.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 10:33 pm

Yeah, they made a mountain out of a molehill.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 10:54 pm

Making a mountain out of a pothole.
 
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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

November 27th, 2019, 11:15 pm

Still, it may be effective. People are sensitive about the NHS.