QuoteOriginally posted by: Cuchulainn QuoteOriginally posted by: PaulQuoteOriginally posted by: Cuchulainn Splendid isolation.I'm keen on connecting with the over 90% of the planet who aren't in Europe. Seems very racist to allow only predominantly Caucasians into the UK. PGood point. 90% of people I am in contact with are non-EU passport holders.The In-crowd are trying to terrify the undecideds with horror stories about what will happen if we leave, this is nicknamed "Project Fear." Almost all of it are untruths, "Project Phooey" I call it.P

QuoteOriginally posted by: PaulQuoteOriginally posted by: Cuchulainn QuoteOriginally posted by: PaulQuoteOriginally posted by: Cuchulainn Splendid isolation.I'm keen on connecting with the over 90% of the planet who aren't in Europe. Seems very racist to allow only predominantly Caucasians into the UK. PGood point. 90% of people I am in contact with are non-EU passport holders.The In-crowd are trying to terrify the undecideds with horror stories about what will happen if we leave, this is nicknamed "Project Fear." Almost all of it are untruths, "Project Phooey" I call it.PMass hysteria is rampant!Even a small majority of the otherwise sanguine Dutch are in favour of a NEXIT. Delusional. IMO BREXIT will be disasterous for British manufacturing (what's left of it). One minor issue is whether to do shopping in Newry or Dundalk? If there is exit, then Partition is forever.

Funny how the collapse of our manufacturing has coincided exactly with our increasing involvement with the EU! We seemed to be quite good at lots of things before the EU bureaucrats decided they knew better than anyone how businesses should be run.P

QuoteOriginally posted by: PaulFunny how the collapse of our manufacturing has coincided exactly with our increasing involvement with the EU! We seemed to be quite good at lots of things before the EU bureaucrats decided they knew better than anyone how businesses should be run.PTo be honest, it was self-inflicted. I doubt if EU triggered the 3-day week nor the Winter of Discontent.I vividly remember all of the 70s and all the events in the UK. Almost.

QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaThe bigger issue is whether the 88% of GDP that is NOT in manufacturing will benefit more than is lost among the 12% that is in manufacturing.If you view BREXIT and society as an economy, then yes it is HUGE question. Ireland got 50bn from EU and EU got >> 200 bn from Ireland's fisheries.

QuoteOriginally posted by: Cuchulainn QuoteOriginally posted by: PaulFunny how the collapse of our manufacturing has coincided exactly with our increasing involvement with the EU! We seemed to be quite good at lots of things before the EU bureaucrats decided they knew better than anyone how businesses should be run.PTo be honest, it was self-inflicted. I doubt if EU triggered the 3-day week nor the Winter of Discontent.I vividly remember all of the 70s and all the events in the UK. Almost.I remember it well...no electricity, lighting by candles! Maggie sorted out that little blip though!P

QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4Alpha The bigger issue is whether the 88% of GDP that is NOT in manufacturing will benefit more than is lost among the 12% that is in manufacturing.I can't see how after Brexit that the UK will do worse trading with the RoW. Given that the EU is so large how come they can't negotiate better deals with e.g. the US? Everything in the US is so much cheaper than in Europe. I suspect the reason is that EU = bureaucrats, i.e. people who couldn't negotiate their way out of a paper bag. Ditto Cameron.P

QuoteOriginally posted by: PaulQuoteOriginally posted by: Cuchulainn QuoteOriginally posted by: PaulFunny how the collapse of our manufacturing has coincided exactly with our increasing involvement with the EU! We seemed to be quite good at lots of things before the EU bureaucrats decided they knew better than anyone how businesses should be run.PTo be honest, it was self-inflicted. I doubt if EU triggered the 3-day week nor the Winter of Discontent.I vividly remember all of the 70s and all the events in the UK. Almost.I remember it well...no electricity, lighting by candles! Maggie sorted out that little blip though!PShe broke the miners indeed. What else did she do? I remember she wanted to waste Liverpool.And she won the 'war' in the Falklands and BBC was censored.

She stopped the Loony Left, and gave market forces a chance to function. But even she couldn't stop the bureaucrats.P

QuoteOriginally posted by: outrunHave you seen those weird 4.7 sec interviews Cameron gave when you got out of his car? He did it twice. That's reason enough to vote against him, it was a very bad attempts to fool people into thinking he was accomplishing something.Maybe listen to the full speech.

QuoteOriginally posted by: outrunQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: outrunHave you seen those weird 4.7 sec interviews Cameron gave when you got out of his car? He did it twice. That's reason enough to vote against him, it was a very bad attempts to fool people into thinking he was accomplishing something.Maybe listen to the full speech.Kind of negative reaction to assume I didn'tYou only mentioned his getting out of the car, which is inconsequential. So, I have no way of knowing if you listened to it, and if so what did you think of it?I think it was quite good.