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Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 15th, 2019, 1:16 am
by katastrofa
AFAIK, that's what egalitarianism was centuries ago, before European democracy. Now it's just a worn-off buzzword used by liberals to sell their politics.

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 15th, 2019, 1:42 am
by bearish
It's a more egalitarian country than the Netherlands, for example.
Alcoholism: big problem in all Western/Nordic/US/EE/Russia and u know wha i mean

Except for italians who don't drink but have a drink.;)
The truth is Ukrainians drink very little. Having one beer or glass of wine per week is considered a lot. I feel like a junkie when I go to a pub (and my head is spinning already after 1/2 pint - ask your confider). I haven't been allowed to drink before 18 (the real 18), not even medicinal tinctures or confectionery before 14.
The most "drunk" countries according to my observations: Romania, Germany, Japan, UK, Czechia. (The infamous Russians don't stand a chance.)
My experience from Norway was that it was considered somewhere between risqué and downright inappropriate to have a beer with dinner on a Wednesday, but perfectly normal to have a dozen on Saturday. To put it another way, you were supposed to drink for the purpose of getting drunk, and then perhaps interesting things might happen. And, occasionally, they did.

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 15th, 2019, 2:59 am
by katastrofa
I know, Helgefylla! Which makes me wonder why you are still here ;-)

My father has a liquor cabinet (a standard equipment of every salon), bursting with unopened bottles - thank you presents. He opens them only for larger events. "I have it opened" is a standard excuse to treat a guest, who will customarily refuse a number of times. I'd never drink strong alcohol in my father's presence. A bit of sweet liquor or tincture will be forgiven as a gluttonous sin - that's the only acceptable strong alcohol for women. Woman drinking vodka=alcoholism. Close family at wedding parties and christenings are an exception. Getting drunk to have sex is something unthinkable. But then again, there are almost no singles to organise Helgefyllas (we keep it at home ;-) ). To think we have common historical roots :-)

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 15th, 2019, 3:53 am
by ISayMoo
"Getting drunk to have sex is something unthinkable"

Of course! One gets someone else drunk to have sex.

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 15th, 2019, 11:32 am
by Cuchulainn
In vino caritas, quod?

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 15th, 2019, 5:26 pm
by Paul
Is this the first time that the EU hasn’t ignored or rerun a referendum about membership?

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 15th, 2019, 6:41 pm
by Cuchulainn
It's a more egalitarian country than the Netherlands, for example.
Alcoholism: big problem in all Western/Nordic/US/EE/Russia and u know wha i mean

Except for italians who don't drink but have a drink.;)
The truth is Ukrainians drink very little. Having one beer or glass of wine per week is considered a lot. I feel like a junkie when I go to a pub (and my head is spinning already after 1/2 pint - ask your confider). I haven't been allowed to drink before 18 (the real 18), not even medicinal tinctures or confectionery before 14.
The most "drunk" countries according to my observations: Romania, Germany, Japan, UK, Czechia. (The infamous Russians don't stand a chance.)
My experience from Norway was that it was considered somewhere between risqué and downright inappropriate to have a beer with dinner on a Wednesday, but perfectly normal to have a dozen on Saturday. To put it another way, you were supposed to drink for the purpose of getting drunk, and then perhaps interesting things might happen. And, occasionally, they did.
What about the craic?

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 15th, 2019, 9:39 pm
by bearish
Sorry, according to irishcentral.com "craic is the Irish word that most confuses outsiders".  Count me in among the outsiders.

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 16th, 2019, 12:05 am
by ISayMoo
Is this the first time that the EU hasn’t ignored or rerun a referendum about membership?
The EU? It was a British referendum.

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 16th, 2019, 12:37 am
by Paul
I meant the Irish thing, also a Danish referendum. Both rerun. There were others too I think. I should said “that the EU encouraged to have rerun.”

But it’s not true anyway. Greenland escaped in 1982! But that was before the EU went full on totalitarian.

Maybe we aren’t out of the woods yet.

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 16th, 2019, 1:37 am
by bearish
Wow! In your words, "the EU went full on totalitarian." That's very McConnell. There is no way to comment on him that would keep us out of trouble.

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 16th, 2019, 1:46 am
by Paul
Ok, maybe there was still room for more. Let’s compromise on “peak” totalitarian. The EU are making conciliatory noises now it seems. So we are over that hump.

I love the way all the remainers (especially that Gina Miller and all the QCs and luvvies) have made a really soft and squishy Brexit less likely and a harder one more. (I hope.)

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 16th, 2019, 1:51 am
by ISayMoo
But at the same time they forced the Tories to move left on economic policy in order to win a majority ;-)

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 16th, 2019, 1:53 am
by Paul
Ve haf vays of making you rezink the result of your referendum.

Don’t type when you have concussion, boys and girls. It comes out German.

Re: UK and the EU: In or out?

Posted: December 16th, 2019, 9:44 am
by FaridMoussaoui
Paul, you have some "hidden complex" towards the Germans.