From my experience as a US Marine, I find that some undisciplined soldiers will do some really fucked up things out of boredom. One does not have to be a marine, bored young blokes do this sort of thing. Go look at the crime statistics. This is nothing new it been happing for hundreds of years! I do not agree with it! It is a problem in ALL military organizations. If life was a perfect world it wouldn't happen.Indeed, the British were seen as the good guys by the Spanish in the war against Napoleon, because although they raped the women that they captured, unlike the French they didn't kill them afterwards. Allied conduct in the aftermath of Nazi Germany was despicable as well.By some average of the last 500 years the US conduct in Iraq is exemplary.You have large gangs of bored men with guns, shit happens. However that is not an excuse. There should have been wholesale prosecutions and dismissals of senior officers for this. Even when they did not order these actions, they allowed them to happen, so they have a choice of dereliction of duty or accomplice to sexual assualt, murder and torture. Also they failed to maintain proper security, else there wouldn't be so many images. To me the scary thing is that the people doing these acts were quite happy to have their pictures taken, and were doing it in the open. This means they had no fear that an officer might turn up and ask wha thre fuck was going on.In particular, these acts have made the locals hate them more. Thus a % of the US servicemen killed in Iraq are dead because their comrades and officers let them down.

Learn English dude or don't post on an English message bored. [sic] LMAO - well done that man! How to look like a dick in one easy lesson - make a spelling mistake when you ridicule someone else's English.

QuoteOriginally posted by: Marinelinuxuser99,QuoteA civilised professional soldier would never lead a naked terrified prisoner around on a dog lead whilst spectators photograph it. Does that mena the US occupation forces are NOT SOLDIERS?I can tell from your remarks above that you were never a soldier and cannot understand what it's like to be one! From my experience as a US Marine, I find that some undisciplined soldiers will do some really fucked up things out of boredom. This is nothing new it been happing for hundreds of years! I do not agree with it! It is a problem in ALL military organizations. If life was a perfect world it wouldn't happen.If you had a choice as a POW to have your head cut off or paraded around as a dog naked I wonder what you would pick? You are an IDIOT for even comparing the two! QuoteIf the USA were invaded would you expect the various militias to just lie down and take it? No - you'd expect them to do exactly what yyou are excreating the Iraqi's from doing now.Learn English dude or don't post on an English message bored. So you claim its the local Iraqi militias kidnapping civilians and murdering them! Your are even more of an idiot now then 2 seconds ago!I'm not really a grammarian but the irony here is too much. You do realize that this is a message board? And that its indicates the posessive, while it's is the contracted form of it is? I believe you must be a highschool graduate (or have a GED) to enlist in the Marines. Was this waived in your case or were you never a Marine?

A few spelling mistakes thats all you got?Nothing else to say?linuxuser99 and Mr. Anderson,This post by linuxuser99 is what I was referring to:QuoteIf the USA were invaded would you expect the various militias to just lie down and take it? No - you'd expect them to do exactly what yyou are excreating the Iraqi's from doing now.

QuoteOriginally posted by: MarineA few spelling mistakes thats all you got?Nothing else to say?linuxuser99 and Mr. Anderson,This post by linuxuser99 is what I was referring to:QuoteIf the USA were invaded would you expect the various militias to just lie down and take it? No - you'd expect them to do exactly what yyou are excreating the Iraqi's from doing now.Other than - you made yourself look like a chump not really. If my english is not up to your exacting standards then fair enough to comment - my spelling is crap - but you took a crowing and pompous tone whilst having spelling mistakes yourself. Now you look like a buffoon. Unlucky. What do you want me to say?

QuoteOriginally posted by: MarineA few spelling mistakes thats all you got?Nothing else to say?linuxuser99 and Mr. Anderson,This post by linuxuser99 is what I was referring to:QuoteIf the USA were invaded would you expect the various militias to just lie down and take it? No - you'd expect them to do exactly what yyou are excreating the Iraqi's from doing now.Okay, and your point is? Normally when someone makes an error in spelling, grammar or even in the immortal words of my 9th grad math teacher "get's their mix all talked up" I and other members of the forum read past it and try to respond. When you inform another poster that they should "Learn English dude or don't post on an English message bored." it is simply impossible for me to pass up the opportunity to point out your mistakes.Now put an apostrophe between the that and the s in your response and tack an apostrophe ve on the you. Now you've got yourself a question. The response is no, that's not all I've got. "If you could kill 10 people today and you know for a fact that it would save 100 people in a year would you? This is a morale issue which governments are faced with everyday."That would be a moral dilemma you are thinking of. A morale issue is something the Marines might be experiencing if they knew one of their former members was making such an ass out of himself while prouldy brandishing the Eagle, Globe and Anchor."I always ask there opinion on the wars in their country."This is too much. Do you flip a coin to determine which version of their/there you will use?"This is bad but it’s also hard to do especially with little or no help for the international community. "I am thinking that you want to say from here. Now either you believe Bush on this and claim we have the international community on our side, evidenced by 350 Bulgarians, 1200 Poles and 36 Norwegian Engineers committed on the ground. The more likely case is that you don't believe the US has the international community on it's side in Iraq. I think by going around the UN the US has indicated they don't really care one way or another if the broader international community is on board. Take care, why don't you re-up.

Rowdy,QuoteEdited: Tue Aug 03, 04 at 07:18 PM by RowdyRoddyPiperYou missed a couple!Quote Normally when someone makes an error in spelling, grammar or even in the immortal words of my 9th grad math teacher "get's their mix all talked up" I and other members of the forum read past it and try to respond. When you inform another poster that they should "Learn English dude or don't post on an English message bored." it is simply impossible for me to pass up the opportunity to point out your mistakes.--> other members and I <--You come second dude!QuoteThat would be a moral dilemma you are thinking of. A morale issue is something the Marines might be experiencing if they knew one of their former members was making such an ass out of himself while prouldy brandishing the Eagle, Globe and Anchor.--> proudly <--Moral issues are those which involve a difference of belief and not a matter of preference.Quote"I always ask there opinion on the wars in their country." This is too much. Do you flip a coin to determine which version of their/there you will use?Visit here dumbass: http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/their

Rowdy,Once a Marine always a Marine!So who is a former member?

Maybe we should change this topic to English 101!

Who was it that said "Never argue with an idiot, he'll take you down to his level and beat you with experience." ?

"Who was it that said "Never argue with an idiot, he'll take you down to his level and beat you with experience." ? "You would swear he was an active member of Wilmott. They get lots of practice here.Okay Marine, it is admittedly bad form for me to make mistakes in posts where I am pointing out yours. I've never really cared much about having bad form.Let's review:"Moral issues are those which involve a difference of belief and not a matter of preference." Glad you can google it's quite a useful skill in this forum. I really don't have an issue with this statement. You were however, talking about "morale issues". Clearly being a Marine, you know or should know that morale is different from moral. As for retort two:Quote--------------------------------------------------------------------------------"I always ask there opinion on the wars in their country." This is too much. Do you flip a coin to determine which version of their/there you will use?--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Visit here dumbass: http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/theirHave you read your link? Are you really that retarded? Can you not see the error that you've made? Would you care for a hint?There vs. Their. What is the difference? Why would it be there opinion and then their country? Can you please tell me which one you would select, if you could only select one spelling and meaning of the homophone their/there to use in the above sentence?Dumbass.

I think the amazing thing here is the difference in effort. I press "spellcheck" and it shows I cant spell almost immediately. Look at the lengths this chaps has gone to to prove conclusively he's a prick. Astounding.

Ad hominem attacks are usually a bad idea:1. They show up how weak your own arguement is.2. If you fluff them then it makes you look like a cretin.They should teach this stuff at school.

where do these Marines come from? Listen to PTE Lynndie.. the one photograhed with the abused prisoners..She now argues that the whole thing was a bit of fun!!! FUN!!! try explaining that to the families of the tortured prisoners.. Turn the tables around and lets assume that PTE Iraqi had an American on a dog leash.. would you say that was ok and a bit of fun! one would have to assume that in the Marine corp you actually play these games as a bit of fun. I'd suppose after a hard days training you would all strip naked and jump on each other for that memorable photograph! or unzip each other and do what you are really trained to do!!!Come on.. all of you should be tried for war crimes

Actually Warrior they were US Army! Big difference!