June 8th, 2002, 8:22 pm
Are these master's degrees considered at all useful for getting into PhD programs? Can you go straight out of undergrad, or even with some work experience? I am trying to plan out my educational route and it seems like the Master's programs might offer some insight into finance/financial math phd life as well as be a leg up in admissions. Any thoughts on this? >>Yes, you can definitely go to a PhD program (in the US at least) without a masters degree.I can speak only for my own experience, which was to apply to PhD programs after an undergraduate degree in Mathematics and some years of work as a quant software developer (65% coding, 5% research, 30% explaining what I was doing to non-tech people). My experience is probably not typical, but I had a pretty successful round of applications to PhD programs. I applied to 8 programs in North America that I would consider top-notch and was accepted to 5 of them. I'll be starting this Fall studying in the OR Department at Cornell.But your grades, recommendations, and boards have to be really really good of course to get in to top programs. Although come to think of it, my Math subject test was rather mediocre, but I think the admissions committees gave me some slack for being out of school for so long. Now, I don't know whether it makes sense from a purely financial perspective to do a PhD or a Masters. The considerations are 1) a PhD takes at least 4 years if you don't already have a masters, maybe more 2) but you have to pay tuition for a masters, whereas for a PhD you'll get a stipend of some sort. And of course if you think you'll have different earning potential depending on which degree you get, that's a factor too.But of course, the real question is: do you want to spend 4, 5, 6...+(?) years of your life immersed in studies? Because if you're not happy with your life in grad school, you'll probably fail. I know this first hand - I dropped out of a PhD Mathematics program in a previous life. But these days I am looking forward to the return to academic life. My brain has completely atrophied due to software rot.