Hi all,Does anyone know if there’s any more or less “official” way of converting a French (0 to 20) average to a UK/US grade point average?Thanks a lot

For French to UK, if you had more than 14 on average, you can say you have a 1st, anything else, say you got a 2:1French to US, cant help you sorry

Here's a webpage I found that discusses different grading systems. Interesting.The biggest problem would be to preserve the qualitative interpretation of the gradesafter the conversion. (For example, you wouldn't want to map a French '20' to a US '4.0'because, as this page indicates, a '20' is rare while a '4.0' is pretty common.) http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/gr ... nt_average

I don't think so. 16/20 (what is caled "grande distinction") == 2:1 and 18/20 ("la plus grand distinction) is 1:1 == 1st (logic as it is "la plus grande" what means the "highest grade")I am sure because I am in a realy good business school in Belgium (exactly same system as in france as the website http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/gr ... nt_average says) and to enter in an IB, in this case Morgan Stanley, the official criteria is to have 2:1 and they ask me "grande distinction" (16/20) => 16/20 == 2:1

who's going to have a 18/20 overall average, unless you're doing arts and you're very good at painting

I don't really understand the 2:1 and 1:1 notation. What's that? Do you knowwhat the Morgan Stanley criteria you mention is in US GPA?

QuoteOriginally posted by: sbssergioI don't think so. 16/20 (what is caled "grande distinction") == 2:1 and 18/20 ("la plus grand distinction) is 1:1 == 1st (logic as it is "la plus grande" what means the "highest grade")I am sure because I am in a realy good business school in Belgium (exactly same system as in france as the website http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/gr ... nt_average says) and to enter in an IB, in this case Morgan Stanley, the official criteria is to have 2:1 and they ask me "grande distinction" (16/20) => 16/20 == 2:1no idea about how things go in Belgium, but there's no way this is the France-UK conversion systemWhy? in French Grandes Ecoles, maybe 1% of the students get 16 in averageIn Oxbridge, at least 70% get a 2:1 (plse correct me if i'm wrong)conclusion, 2:1 cant be 16anyway 2:1 degrees are awarded at 60%, which would mean 12/20. A 1st is at 70% which is 14/20.For IB online applications, a Grande Ecole degree is OK, whatever the grade. A university "licence" or "maitrise" won't do, whatever the grade as well.

ok maybe I am wrong. I thought 2:1 was something realy execptional. Any comments ....

i don't think it's really exceptional....i remember lots of my classmates at LSE got it.........it's like 3.5 undergrad GPA minimum in USA, for IB applications, tons of ppl have it.......i actually would say that getting 2:1 is probably a bit harder than 3.5, since in US u take quite a few classes outside ur major....... and if u r in B-school, i assume u doing MS or MBA and u r applying for associate, but then MStanley's requirement is weird since i believe there is no 2:1 in Masters programs in UK. u get pass, merit or distinction........

QuoteOriginally posted by: sbssergiook maybe I am wrong. I thought 2:1 was something realy execptional. Any comments ....Its good, but not exceptional.In Oxford, about 60% of students get it.About 10% of them get firsts.

From a Redbrick Uni nowadays (note: does not apply to degrees 10 years ago)1st - Bright2:1 - Expected2:2 - Lazy/Not bright3rd - StupidPass- Drug problems