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September 8th, 2005, 2:01 pm

Can't you see pauper that they're just as bad, corrupt and self-centred as one another (Bush and Clinton)? Time to think outside of your box.
 
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September 8th, 2005, 2:02 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoeCan't you see pauper that they're just as bad, corrupt and self-centred as one another (Bush and Clinton)? that was actually my point.
 
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September 8th, 2005, 2:43 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoeCan't you see pauper that they're just as bad, corrupt and self-centred as one another (Bush and Clinton)? that was actually my point.read this also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Brownwell, Lee Witt was at least sucessfull businessman before becoming judge. Who is Brown? Looks like he is the lawerand he failed to run Arabic horses association when he was in charge. LAWER. The guy who's role to create politicallycorrect mess of words. He have created the fund for legal defence of himself when he was in IAHA (read more on wikipedia link above).Well, this time he might need to do it again.BTW, according to FEMA site:"Additionally, Under Secretary Brown helps the Secretary of Homeland Security ensure the effectiveness of emergency responders, and directs the National Incident Management System (NIMS) Integration Center, the National Disaster Medical System and the Nuclear Incident Response Team." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~lowtech
 
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September 8th, 2005, 5:23 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: lowtechBTW, according to FEMA site:"Additionally, Under Secretary Brown helps the Secretary of Homeland Security ensure the effectiveness of emergency responders, and directs the National Incident Management System (NIMS) Integration Center, the National Disaster Medical System and the Nuclear Incident Response Team."God help us.
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September 8th, 2005, 5:45 pm

What's additionally messed up is, now that the dumbasses have tripped over their feet and royally fucked up the immediate response to the hurricane, now they're afraid to say "no" to any request for aid, rebuilding, etc., etc., etc. No way do we get anything even vaguely resembling a reasonable long-term response to this.
 
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September 8th, 2005, 6:13 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: doreillyQuote"My lord, the guy heading FEMA has no qualifications. What was he doing before getting pulled into FEMA by the Bush administration in 2003? He was an estate planning lawyer in Colorado and of counsel for the International Arabian Horse Association Legal Department. And yes, it is the same Michael D. Brown."that's a half-truth:In fact, the 2 jobs Brown had before becoming head of FEMA were:FEMA's Deputy Director Fema's General Counsel. The best man for the job?When Brown left the [International Arabian Horse Association] four years ago, he was, among other things, a failed former lawyer -- a man with a 20-year-old degree from a semi-accredited law school who hadn't attempted to practice law in a serious way in nearly 15 years and who had just been forced out of his job in the wake of charges of impropriety. At this point in his life, returning to his long-abandoned legal career would have been very difficult in the competitive Colorado legal market. Yet, within months of leaving the IAHA, he was handed one of the top legal positions in the entire federal government: general counsel for a major federal agency. A year later, he was made its number-two official, and, a year after that, Bush appointed him director of FEMA."Scott McClellan won't say whether the president has confidence in Brown now. The real question is, why did he have confidence in him then ?
 
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September 8th, 2005, 6:14 pm

thnx to the disasternot for killing peoples( my great sorrow) but for it has reveiled the other side of americain dreamI had believed the disasters in China and the ways the chinese government handled them were the worst.there are surely worse way to handle them
 
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September 8th, 2005, 11:08 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: doreillyQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: doreillyQuote"My lord, the guy heading FEMA has no qualifications. What was he doing before getting pulled into FEMA by the Bush administration in 2003? He was an estate planning lawyer in Colorado and of counsel for the International Arabian Horse Association Legal Department. And yes, it is the same Michael D. Brown."that's a half-truth:In fact, the 2 jobs Brown had before becoming head of FEMA were:FEMA's Deputy Director Fema's General Counsel. The best man for the job?When Brown left the [International Arabian Horse Association] four years ago, he was, among other things, a failed former lawyer -- a man with a 20-year-old degree from a semi-accredited law school who hadn't attempted to practice law in a serious way in nearly 15 years and who had just been forced out of his job in the wake of charges of impropriety. At this point in his life, returning to his long-abandoned legal career would have been very difficult in the competitive Colorado legal market. Yet, within months of leaving the IAHA, he was handed one of the top legal positions in the entire federal government: general counsel for a major federal agency. A year later, he was made its number-two official, and, a year after that, Bush appointed him director of FEMA."Scott McClellan won't say whether the president has confidence in Brown now. The real question is, why did he have confidence in him then ?Good ole Brownie. Perhaps they were a little more than roomates, wink wink nudge nudge say no more.
 
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September 9th, 2005, 12:21 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: AlanBQuoteOriginally posted by: playerhttp://toccionline.kizash.com/films/1001/138/index.phpOn another note go to google.com and look up failure...Interesting what the first link isI'm not surprised! I look at that man and still can not believe that moron is PresidentSorry I know kicking this guy around is just too easy but,Today when you lookup failure on Google, the winner is "www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html".
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September 9th, 2005, 12:26 pm

Poor guy.
 
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September 9th, 2005, 1:44 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoedegree from a semi-accredited law school what exactly is a "semi-accredited law school" ?Either it's accredited, which means I assume that you're allowed to take the bar exam,or it isn't.These are his bar admissions:Oklahoma, 1982District of Columbia, 1987Colorado, 1991U.S. Court of Appeals Federal Circuit, 1982U.S. Court of Appeals 10th Circuit, 1982U.S. District Court Northern District of Oklahoma, 1982U.S. District Court Western District of Oklahoma, 1982U.S. Federal Court, 1982
 
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September 9th, 2005, 4:59 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoedegree from a semi-accredited law school what exactly is a "semi-accredited law school" ?Either it's accredited, which means I assume that you're allowed to take the bar exam,or it isn't.These are his bar admissions:Oklahoma, 1982District of Columbia, 1987Colorado, 1991U.S. Court of Appeals Federal Circuit, 1982U.S. Court of Appeals 10th Circuit, 1982U.S. District Court Northern District of Oklahoma, 1982U.S. District Court Western District of Oklahoma, 1982U.S. Federal Court, 1982Not Guilty (of this post). Check the original source a little more carefully please.
 
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September 9th, 2005, 5:09 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoeQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoedegree from a semi-accredited law school what exactly is a "semi-accredited law school" ?Either it's accredited, which means I assume that you're allowed to take the bar exam,or it isn't.These are his bar admissions:Oklahoma, 1982District of Columbia, 1987Colorado, 1991U.S. Court of Appeals Federal Circuit, 1982U.S. Court of Appeals 10th Circuit, 1982U.S. District Court Northern District of Oklahoma, 1982U.S. District Court Western District of Oklahoma, 1982U.S. Federal Court, 1982Not Guilty (of this post). Check the original source a little more carefully please.I guess this will happen when you "cut and paste" as you go thru life, with "blinders on".
 
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September 9th, 2005, 7:23 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by:I'm not surprised! I look at that man and still can not believe that moron is PresidentSorry I know kicking this guy around is just too easy but,".This is "our" punishment for re-electing this Bozo
 
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September 10th, 2005, 4:26 am

LOL! Gggg-G-Unit!That google page has got be rigged. Funny, but rigged.As much as people like to rip Bush, how would the alternative (John Kerry) have performed thus far? As a Christian voter, I saw the lesser of two bad choices. And as a "middle-American", Bush really appealed to me with his sincerity...despite his appearance of unintelligence. Turns out the motives for the Iraq War were wrong, so maybe his sincerity is a veiled one.I guess I don't understand the hatred and loathing of Bush. Liberal or Conservative, a politician is a politician (i.e. sleaze ball). And if that politician is on the other side, there is nothing he can do right in your eyes.A major problem with the Bush Administration is not Bush himself IMHO. Since congress is Republican-controlled, there are no checks and balances such as what Clinton had during his administration. Plus, I think that he is in uncharted territory as a US president. A war on terror, emerging rival in China, natural catastrophe, etc. Bush has screwed up, but he hasn't had a cakewalk or anything.