Can anyone rang MSc financial egineering programs in Europe, regarding with later career, salaries, tuition. I consider more programs , but can't decide. What is the rank of the MSc Financial egineering - Birkbeck college ? - Thanks, bboev

What about St. Gallen - Swiss school?

UK ranking1. Imperial College2. Warwick3. King's 4. Birkbeck5. City6. ICMA. Reading

Hi,Can you please axplain your ranking? I have applied to IC, KC, BBK and City. I am waiting for the results, so I am interested in which has got a better reputation.My impression is that City is very well organized both in terms of structure and in contents. It seems very practical, teaching you exactly what is needed in the real world. To get a job it's pretty good I guess.I am not sure I would rank it City 5th, I feel it is better than KC and BBK, which are a bit too theoretical.Anyway these are only my impressions after having visited the department and having attended a couple of open evenings. Unfortunately I don't know anyone who attended any of the courses.My 2 cents

ephraimscu, is that your personal ranking ?

For first two IC and Warwick, I think that we do not need to explain. For King’s, there are three top teacher over there such as Prof L.P. Hughston, Prof W.T. Shaw, Dr M. Zervos, some of them were big Quants, they have many industrial experiences. Also, the programme is very quantitative.For BBK, it is a theory and research orientated programme. It has intensive stochastic calculus and numerical training. Moreover, a famous teacher Prof Hélyette Geman joined the term this year!For City, it is really good for people who want to go to industrial, but not for academic. There is just only one professor, Prof Celia Glass, teaching in the programme, most teachers are junior or senior lecturer.City is very good at finance but not at math. However, the facilities are really good and there are many practical courses. There is a student practice trading floor there.If you want to be a trader, I think City is a very good school. If you want to be a junior quant, I think you should consider others.

Thanks ephraimscu, I agree with your point of view.

King's is the best,I think.

1. DEA Proba et Finance Paris VI - most renowned, best for jobs, most mathematically demanding.2. Zurich - excellent faculty.3. Imperial - good course, based in London.

Is there any independent organization which has studied the ranking of MFE or MSc in Financial Math in Europe objectively, something similar to the Business Week’s or FT’s ranking on MBA?

European universities are second-rate compared to their American counterparts.

Ppauper may be right, but the Independant article doesn't do a good job of supporting the proposition.Firstly, who are "Shanghai's Jiao Tong University" ?Britain all by itself has two of the top 10, which ain't bad, but what does 36 out of the top 50 mean ?Does it mean the US had 72% of the top places ? Not clear. Is what happens when you cite arts graduates I suppose.The article is badly researched, and positively dishonest in places.They say the problem is due to funding and old-fashioned governance yet British universities are horribly underfunded compared to Europe or the USA but by their scale beat them. Oxford and Cambridge are governed by processes that predate the discovery of America let alone its methods of running universities, yet they come out ahead of most.It may be right, but only by accident.

DCFC:Shanghai Jiao Tong University is one of the prestigious universities in China, usually ranked at about top5 in Chinese universities, located just at the corner of the French Concession in Shanghai. "Jiao Tong" in Chinese means transportaion/communication, well it's actually a science/polytechnic university, just like Imperial College London in UK. Its methodology of giving rankings of world universities is well accepted by many institutions in the world, which has great focus on criteria such as research papers published and funding condition.Former president of PRC, Mr Jiang is also graduate of this university. Although these kinds of univeristies are not so well funded compared with anglo-saxon and Japanese universities, there are really for elite. At about one of every 10,000 miserable Chinese high school graduates can be honourably selected by these kinds of universities after cruel competition. Many graduates with open value and high caliber pursue their doctorate/post doct degrees in major developped countries since early twentieth century. So far as I am concerned, many Chinese quants in United States are from this university. Actually US universities purchase a lot European professors by its open, well developped system and immense funding. They are crazily publishing papers for tenure position under the US academic system. That actually makes an overwelming influence and causes a brain drain. Fortunately in quant industry, London and Paris always have the highest level talents for innovation.