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Domingues
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December 2nd, 2002, 5:26 pm

I'd like to know what is the most used model for portfolio optimization. Anybody use Elton-Gruber model? Sharp? Thank you!
 
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December 2nd, 2002, 7:35 pm

What are the instruments in the portfolio?An equity portfolio is done a little differently than an asset/libiability portfolio at an insurance company or a mortgage back security portfolio.
 
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December 2nd, 2002, 7:49 pm

Oh sorry. We could consider a simple portifolio composed by shares only.
 
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December 2nd, 2002, 11:47 pm

Black-Litterman model is useful for that case.The model considers classical mean-variance portfolio optimization and the user's view.The example of 'view' is: "The return of stock A will be greater than that of stock B by 2%" The model is constrained optimization and the closed form solution is known.If one prudently estimates the mean and the variance of return, the model will perform well.
 
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December 3rd, 2002, 10:26 am

When it comes to portfolio optimisation one of the main problem is the stability of the variance/covariance matrix.Carol Alexander et al did a very interesting work on the topic (I don't have the name of the article in mind). To deal with stability of the above matrix, they don't estimate standard correlations instead they use cointegration & apparently results are very good.I haven't seen this apply in the real world so far but I wouldn't be surprised to hear more & more about it going forward.Hope this helps
 
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December 4th, 2002, 12:26 am

Typical shortterm and longterm interest rates are cointegrated. But, to my knowledge, there exists no other economictime series cointegrated with stock. Nono, if you let others know the specific information about Alexander et al's, it willbe helpful.
 
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December 4th, 2002, 11:22 am

I'm going to dig deeply into my big pile of research papers, I should be able to find back this article soon.I'll let you know.
 
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December 4th, 2002, 11:57 am

But we have two kinds of models: the academic models and the market models.Tell me more about the models used at the financial market nowadays...
 
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December 5th, 2002, 8:04 pm

I have some experience from using a modified version of the Black-Litterman model to get the correct starting point and then adjusting the initial guess with own market view. This will give quite nice behaving portfolios. Remaining problems in the real world are, solving the mixed integer problem when optimizing over real instruments, the ability to choose the number of instruments in the new portfolio ... etc. /Good luck! Rutger
 
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December 10th, 2002, 7:36 pm

Sorry guys but I've been unable to find the Carol Alexander's article. The only thing I remmenber is that it has been presented at an IRR conference.If I found more information I'll let you know.
 
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December 10th, 2002, 8:38 pm

do u consider to include liquidity into optimization?it introduces non-linearity also to stock portfoliosnik
 
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December 10th, 2002, 9:12 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: nikoldo u consider to include liquidity into optimization?it introduces non-linearity also to stock portfoliosnikHow would you include liquidity???
 
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December 11th, 2002, 6:29 pm

liquidity effects actually change prices non-linearly in your objective functionsuch that prices become function of the volume.mathematically speaking liquidity adds additional constrains to your problem.without liquidity involved, the number of stocks in portfolio scale to any value, which is even counter-intuitive.optimal volume of portfolio will be another output of found solution.for liquidity measure... its difficult. depends on your taste and overview of the problem. there are few good papers on the subject, but they mostly indicate the problem rather give exact solution. all of them are rather basic. so, try to build it yourself. nik
 
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December 11th, 2002, 9:33 pm

NikolCan you recommend some of those papers?
 
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December 12th, 2002, 12:42 am

Asset allocation comprises two parts: Strategic and Tactical.Usually tactical asset allocation(TAA) has relatively short term (and is similar to the portfolio optimization).Hence TAA does not consider the liquidity issue.But SAA has relatively longterm, it considers liquidity as the asset and the liability flow.Classic SAA models are following1. Russell-Yasuda model2. SAA: Portfolio Choice for Long-Term Investors, Campbell and Viceira, 20013. Ziemba et al. Hope to be helpful!!!..