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shettydiwakar
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Pros and cons of Bloomberg R&D group ?

July 5th, 2007, 7:44 pm

Hi all,What would be the pros and cons of working for the R&D group of Bloomberg ?The work is that of C++ developer to integrate or put together the models developed by quants.ThanksDiwakar
 
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Pros and cons of Bloomberg R&D group ?

July 5th, 2007, 10:26 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: shettydiwakarHi all,What would be the pros and cons of working for the R&D group of Bloomberg ?The work is that of C++ developer to integrate or put together the models developed by quants.ThanksDiwakarGreat job - if you like being a code warrior.
 
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Pros and cons of Bloomberg R&D group ?

July 5th, 2007, 11:46 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: shettydiwakarThe work is that of C++ developer to integrate or put together the models developed by quants.Check with them again. The job description could be "that of C++ developer to integrate the models using FORTRAN"
 
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Pros and cons of Bloomberg R&D group ?

July 6th, 2007, 6:14 am

BB have some of the very top level of quants, so if you are working for them it is very good.But as others here have pointed out there is a big pile of work at BB where the technology is shockingly old fashioned, and requires geriatric nursing.What I would do is ask how much training you will get in Fortran, if the answer isn't zero, worry.
 
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Pros and cons of Bloomberg R&D group ?

July 11th, 2007, 3:16 pm

Thanks TraderJoe, Ananihdv and DCFC for your inputs.This is for the Interest Rate Derivatives group
 
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Pros and cons of Bloomberg R&D group ?

July 11th, 2007, 8:52 pm

If you work there, can you please tell them to do something about their antiquated e-mail system? It is so un-user friendly too.Very much appreciated!!!
 
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Pros and cons of Bloomberg R&D group ?

July 12th, 2007, 6:28 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: DCFCBB have some of the very top level of quants, so if you are working for them it is very good.But as others here have pointed out there is a big pile of work at BB where the technology is shockingly old fashioned, and requires geriatric nursing.What I would do is ask how much training you will get in Fortran, if the answer isn't zero, worry.DCFC,you not like Fortran?As a veteran of Fortran (from 1975) as well as C++ (1989) I can say from my experience that systems in Fortran had to be well-designed in the old days (and there are various reasons for this which I won't go into). It was the language of choice in engineering and in some ways it is more suitable than C++ for scientific and technical applications. Of course, C++ is OO and has templates and looks good on your CV. I see it as having more and less than Fortran. The latter has better performance and has buckets of libraries.
 
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July 12th, 2007, 10:30 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: Cuchulainnyou not like Fortran?As a veteran of Fortran (from 1975) as well as C++ (1989) I can say from my experience that systems in Fortran had to be well-designed in the old days (and there are various reasons for this which I won't go into). It was the language of choice in engineering and in some ways it is more suitable than C++ for scientific and technical applications. Cuchulainn, BB uses Fortran for application level programming ( in IT) and not for scientific applications. That is the main problem working there. The reason is the backend for the terminals have large amounts of Fortran code base. They use C++ for scientific programming and Fortran for IT.
 
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July 13th, 2007, 3:00 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ananihdvCuchulainn, BB uses Fortran for application level programming ( in IT) and not for scientific applications. That is the main problem working there. The reason is the backend for the terminals have large amounts of Fortran code base. They use C++ for scientific programming and Fortran for IT.I also hear that their mainframe is powered by a team of mules turning a treadwheel.
 
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July 14th, 2007, 12:54 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: PanniniQuoteOriginally posted by: ananihdvCuchulainn, BB uses Fortran for application level programming ( in IT) and not for scientific applications. That is the main problem working there. The reason is the backend for the terminals have large amounts of Fortran code base. They use C++ for scientific programming and Fortran for IT.I also hear that their mainframe is powered by a team of mules turning a treadwheel.hey Pannino,The younger generation of programmers could learn a lot from mainframe folk in the areas of code compactness and robustness
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July 15th, 2007, 2:56 pm

Regarding DCFC's comments"very top level of quants@BB", Peter Carr, Bruno Dupire are shining there.
 
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July 15th, 2007, 6:02 pm

Also Flesaker Bjorn, and Konikov Michael. Patrick Hagan was there until about a year (?) ago.