January 19th, 2003, 2:32 pm
Ok, had the AC yesterday.Numerical/Verbal reasoning - standard tests I should have done well.Interview (including "sell yourself") - After my little speech, one of the interviewers said "I think there's one thing we know - you want to be a trader, you BADLY want to be a trader!". I think my enthuthiasm came through, they liked the fact I had a contingency plan (MS course). They caught me by surprise on one of the questions though, I was discussing the quantitative skills I've picked up e.g. modules in Advanced Financial Econometrics, Mathematical Finance, Derivatives, etc etc, they asked me what 19 squared was! I managed to answer it but I fail to see how that is relevant to the kind of quant skills I was talking about, I didn't exactly say "I'm great with mental arithmetic!" especially since my basic numerical reasoning skills were being tested in another part of the AC. Asked me if I would "rather be the best player in a mediocre team, or a mediocre player in the best team" - I answered the latter.Group exercise - 20 mins on how we think the UK housing market will perform in 2003, it was difficult for me to get a word in edgeways - 1 guy just kept talking (I think he was nervous), the first point I made was the overall conclusion for our group i.e. I answered the question whilst they were talking about "expansionary fiscal policy"... I have to say that I did more listening than talking but the points I did make were good ones. I was disgusted with a couple of members of the group though - another guy was making a point and these two started having their own little discussion, I just hope the assessors picked up on it (they must have done!). The Group Ex was followed by a presentation by our group - the 2 guys that had their own little discussion volunteered straight away and I figured that there's no point putting my head on the block - do traders really need to be good at presentations!?Anyway, overall I think I did pretty well. I had a good chat with the head of trader training about "natural born traders". Oh, and I had a disagreement with one of my interviewers. I said that it is not acceptable for a trader to blow his own trumpet, but it is acceptable to do it as part of a desk i.e. say we're making the most money. She said you're not competing with other people in the bank but the market. I said if you competition between desks (not for products, just in a friendly kind of way) then it would make the bank as a whole more profitable - what do you guys think of that? I thought that desks in banks do generally have a friendly rivalry, and the biggest producers are looked up to etc. In fact, I had a second disagreement with her - she said "you described trading as being seen as macho, and yet say there is no room for egos" I responded with the fact I used to play rugby league and even though that is seen as macho, ego's in the team were not tolerated and people who did go that way were quickly put back in their place by teammates.