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July 23rd, 2010, 12:56 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: HansiThis is just based on what I've been told and experienced in hiring procedures at the companies I've worked for but don't use an academic CV for applying for jobs, no one is going to want to read that. It should simply be contact details, education (include only major awards, publications etc), experience (jobs), skills/language and one line of interests at the bottom.Academic CV and industrial resumes are *VERY* different. Industrial resumes should never, ever, ever be more than two pages. Also academic CV's want you to list everything that you've every done, whereas once you've listed two or three papers on an industrial CV, you've made the point that you are smart, and anything else is a waste of space.One trick with your resume is to glance at it for 15 seconds. If you can't remember the important points, then it's a bad resume.
 
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July 23rd, 2010, 12:53 pm

You guys are very helpful! Specially for someone who is new at this. Thanks a lot! I shortened my CV and I made if fit in two pages. Here is the link to it:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8099591/CV.pdf@Hansi I feel like an idiot, but I cannot figure out where the button for sending private messages is.
 
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July 23rd, 2010, 12:59 pm

Click the " no new message(s)." link at the top.
 
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July 23rd, 2010, 3:04 pm

QuoteI shortened my CV and I made if fit in two pages. Here is the link to it:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8099591/CV.pdf"salsa & ballroom dancing".... ai caramba!
 
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July 24th, 2010, 1:34 am

Quote"salsa & ballroom dancing".... ai caramba! Been doing it for 5 years 3 times a week. At least one person looked at my CV.
 
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July 24th, 2010, 7:41 pm

Dude, no offense but you are supposed to spend more time to have your cv polished before you start applying for jobs. No wonder you cant get any interviews with the cv you have written.
 
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July 24th, 2010, 7:56 pm

I think you can get a job but not in FO, but in MO -IT programming or risk architecture. Those jobs are not only in NYC but also in places like Columbus OH. Probably its possible to find something in Chicago as well. Dont waste your time applying for the positions listed online on baking career sites. If i were you i would have searched alumnus database to check who are the guys who moved to finance. You'd better contact the guys with similar background to the ones you have, but if the selection of those is limited contact all the people you can find in the database who are in banking. It takes quite sometime but i guess thats the only way.Try to contact these dudes in Naperville http://www.qsg.com/. I had a job offer from them many years ago. I would not be surprised to learn that they hire in the current market.Good luck!!
 
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July 25th, 2010, 8:30 am

CV...Hobbieseating, fornicating, going to bars and drinking heavily
 
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July 26th, 2010, 9:52 am

So, I see that people started debating hobbies. Does one usually put hobbies in the CV or not?
 
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July 26th, 2010, 10:02 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: tavisorSo, I see that people started debating hobbies. Does one usually put hobbies in the CV or not?Some hobbies can be very useful if they involve high amounts of skill and time commitment. If you are master chess player, marathon runner, or concert pianist, that would be impressive, and spending five words to mention it won't hurt. As with other things, if you mention it, prepared to be grilled on it. If you mention that you are a master chess player, don't be surprised if at the interview someone throws you chess problems.
 
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July 27th, 2010, 2:50 am

QuoteIf you mention that you are a master chess player, don't be surprised if at the interview someone throws you chess problems.I have not found many chess players in banks or hedge funds. When was the last time people in your work group got together to play some serious chess? Never? This probably means few people are really good at chess -- they just all boast they are, but they don't really like it.
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July 27th, 2010, 2:59 am

Put "employment" at the top and list all the jobs where you've actually been paid.Ditch the list of presentations.Make the whole thing less ugly. (eg font, spacing)Move personal data further down.
 
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July 27th, 2010, 3:00 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: KackToodlesQuoteIf you mention that you are a master chess player, don't be surprised if at the interview someone throws you chess problems.I have not found many chess players in banks or hedge funds. When was the last time people in your work group got together to play some serious chess? Never? This probably means few people are really good at chess -- they just all boast they are, but they don't really like it. stop pretending you know many people in hedge fund industry. as one of many examples, people at IKOS are into chess (well, at least they used to be LOL http://www.businessinsider.com/leiana-m ... ard-2010-7 )
 
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July 27th, 2010, 5:04 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: mjDitch the list of presentations. yeah, only academics with no industry experience think that presentations and conference attendances are actually worth putting on a resume. Can you imagine a salesman listing every single one of his business trips on his resume?!
 
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July 30th, 2010, 7:06 am

Thanks for the advice. I changed the Education part and split it into Employment and Education. Regarding the Presentations. I know that for a sales person it does not make sense to put them since that is what they do most of the time, but is it also obvious for someone coming from academia that they should be able to put things together in talks and present their research? I personally know people in academia who are reluctant to giving talks or very bad at it. That is why I think that a few talks at well known places might help. Feel free to contradict me. The debate is not just about my CV, but it might be helpful to others as well. QuoteOriginally posted by: mjPut "employment" at the top and list all the jobs where you've actually been paid.Ditch the list of presentations.Make the whole thing less ugly. (eg font, spacing)Move personal data further down.