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chartreuse
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Negative corporate bond spreads

September 27th, 2011, 8:47 pm

HiCould someone please shed some light on this seemingly basic question? I have some bond spreads = yield of corporate bond (t) - yield of treasury(t) where maturities are matched. This is a rough estimate of corporate bonds - I am aware that CDS spreads may be better but I don't have access to them. For a set of cusips, I am getting some negative bond spreads for both investment and speculative grade bonds. Btw, these bonds have no optionality. Is this normal? What does this mean? Am I wrong in my estimation? Thank you very much.
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Negative corporate bond spreads

September 28th, 2011, 12:35 am

This is not normal. Not that it couldn't happen, but especially the notion of a speculative grade bond with a negative yield spread to a maturity matched treasury is highly suspect. Can you give us a concrete example, i.e. name, maturity, date & yield?
 
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Negative corporate bond spreads

September 28th, 2011, 7:44 pm

CUSIP: 36186CAH6 (GMAC LLC). It's 5 year bond, coupon is 6.625. I got the yield data from Bloomberg. I take the diff btwn the yield of the bond and the 5 year Treasury (Const Mat) taken off from FRED St. Louis. January 2005- June 2005, every single day, I get negative spreads. Btw, I use the yield data from Bloomberg (interpolated ones) so that even those days that have no yield data, they do the interpolation. I'm not looking for perfection but I wonder if using the interpolated yields are introducing even more bias and more errors. As for IG bonds, I get negative spreads, too. I guess this would depend on the coupon of that day?Please help - thank you so much for all the insight.
 
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Negative corporate bond spreads

September 29th, 2011, 10:13 am

Liquidity premium is lower on the corporate bonds?Treasury seen as more likely to default?Tax effects?
 
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Negative corporate bond spreads

September 29th, 2011, 2:39 pm

This bond was issued in July 2007 and its yield has not been anywhere close to Treasury yields ever since. You looked at it for 2005?
 
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Negative corporate bond spreads

September 30th, 2011, 8:55 pm

GMAC bonds with negative spreads. I don't think so.GMAC was bankrupt before the credit crunch.
 
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chartreuse
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Negative corporate bond spreads

October 3rd, 2011, 2:33 pm

Hello everyone. Sorry for the delayed response. You are absolutely right that there were no negative spreads. The calculation was an error on my part. In fact, I learned a better way to calculate interpolated spreads using O'Kane and Sen's paper "Credit Spreads Explained". When using that methodology for my portfolio of corporate bonds, I am able to calculate spreads matching maturity. Apologies for the inconvenience!