QuoteHis gang is a gathering of people who have a need to be taken more seriously than they are in real life. You are always bitchy and touchy on here lately. I agree that you do need some kind of self-help or support group.I think Powerpuff is pretty cool. You guys can be like the fight club over there. More like those cancer-victim groups the main character used to drop in on. And I guess I am like that goth girl, who ruined it for him.To each their own. I'll think about joining the NP self-help group. I am sure I'll always find you here discussing your stripper support group or exchanging cool vibe with Powerpuff gang. I actually didn't mean to detriment her coolness personally, it's just a good descriptive name you came up with. I never remember her saying anything about anything except posting some pictures of cats and squirrels and the like, so i guess i agree, she is super cool.

If FDAX has even a half a brain, then why is his site crashed with a full disk right now? That whole forum is a suckers game. They put up a bunch of threads with "HFT" and "Sharpe Ratio" in the title. And so a bunch of young people start clicking around like dreamy little fish, hoping they are going to find some inside secrets. But there is nothing. And nobody like me to point out what a bunch of BS half of it is.

I visit both Forums and post once in awhile here.The best things on the NP Forum are the discussion of The Blank Swan, which received a more protracted, if not always enlightened, workout there than it did here, though Traden4Alpha and a few others carried the ball for quite awhile and much of the posting on NP was jousting with the author at a junior varsity level.And Nonius' novel Linear B. This work is very funny and he could shop it around, if he really wants to be a published author.Elsewhere, it is much as it is here, though skewed to a slightly older crowd.A few people have real insight into markets, many like to shoot the breeze with varying degrees of skill and ingenuity.True that there are more young people, students and perhaps creative types here and it might be beneficial if some of the professional voices were a little louder to maintain an overall On Topic balance.But the key to a good Forum is diversity. Pictures of kittens do not hurt any one any more than pictures of option pricing formulas do.To each one's own.

Regarding the original topic here, if there is a desire to see any court documents on the Aleynikov case, they are accessible through searches such as the ones done by someone earlier on this thread.Maybe some links later, time and energy permitting.

QuoteOriginally posted by: zerdna...( so and so) gang is beyond my capability of being ridiculous.Zerdna, darling, Why sell yourself short like that? I am quite sure that not only do you have infinite capability for it, but in fact you actually *are*more ridiculous than you could ever imagine.It's your lack of imagination that's the problem. The rest of us see it quite clearly.

I really find it hard to believe that they've criminalized what at best is a civil matter.How many engineers have been involved in spats about employment agreementswhen they've gone to work for a competitor? So instead of going to civil court thosecompanies could just call the FBI? Come'on.

A couple of useful links for those following this closely.Here is the single page reversal:Aleynikov Decision February 16, 2012"Upon due consideration, it is hereby ORDERED, ADJUDGED AND DECREED that the judgment of conviction is REVERSED on both counts and the matter is remanded to the district court for entry of a judgment of acquittal. An opinion shall follow in due course. The mandate shall issue forthwith."The judgment was just entered on Feb 16 and the full legal opinion will follow. (Naturally, they do not waste any time in letting you go, when this is the outcome.)Here is a key document submitted by Aleynikov's legal team at the end of January 2011: (note: not January 2012, so a year passes in the mean time).REPLY MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN FURTHER SUPPORT OF POST-TRIAL MOTIONS OF DEFENDANT SERGEY ALEYNIKOV FOR A JUDGMENT OF ACQUITTAL PURSUANT TO FED. R. CRIM. P. 29 OR, IN THE ALTERNATIVE, A NEW TRIAL PURSUANT TO FED. R. CRIM. P. 33These are the sections from the Table of Contents, to give you the quick version:LEGAL ARGUMENT .....................................................................................................................3..I... THE GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO REFUTE THAT THE GOLDMANTRADING SYSTEM WAS NOT A PRODUCT PRODUCED FOR OR PLACEDIN INTERSTATE OR FOREIGN COMMERCE AND THAT THERE WAS NOEVIDENCE PRESENTED THAT IT WAS........................................................................3..II... THE GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO ESTABLISH THAT ITINTRODUCED ANY EVIDENCE OF A MARKET FOR THE SOURCE CODEALEYNIKOV WAS CHARGED WITH HAVING STOLEN. ..........................................6..III... THE GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO POINT TO ANY EVIDENCE THATALEYNIKOV INTENDED TO CONVERT GOLDMAN'S SOURCE CODE TOHIS OR ANOTHER'S ECONOMIC BENEFIT OR THAT HE INTENDED TOOR COULD INJURE GOLDMAN. ....................................................................................8..IV... THE GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO REFUTE THAT THE EVIDENCEADMITTED AT TRIAL MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY RATIONALJURY TO FIND ALEYNIKOV GUILTY ON ITS CORE THEORY. .............................14..V... THE GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO COUNTER ALEYNIKOV'SSHOWING THAT THE COURT ERRED BY CLOSING THE COURTROOMAND IN THE MANNER IN WHICH IT CARRIED OUT THOSE CLOSINGS. ...........17..VI... ALEYNIKOV IS ENTITLED TO A NEW TRIAL BECAUSE THE COURTERRED IN PRECLUDING HIM FROM QUESTIONING SPECIAL AGENTMICHAEL MCSWAIN REGARDING STATEMENTS MADE TO HIM BYGOLDMAN EMPLOYEES DURING HIS INVESTIGATION. ......................................18..VII... THE GOVERNMENT HAS NOT CONTRADICTED THE SHOWING THATTHE COURT ERRED BY DENYING ALEYNIKOV ACCESS TO THEENTIRE TRADING SYSTEM AND THEN PERMITTING THEGOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE EVIDENCE REGARDING PORTIONS OFTHE SYSTEM TO WHICH ACCESS WAS DENIED. ...................................................20..VIII... THE GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO REFUTE THAT A NEW TRIAL ISWARRANTED BECAUSE IT IMPROPERLY ASSERTED DURINGSUMMATION THAT ALEYNIKOV LIED ABOUT HIS SALARY. ............................21..IX... THE GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO REFUTE THAT THE COURTERRED BY PREVENTING DEFENSE COUNSEL FROM TALKING ABOUTCIVIL REMEDIES DURING HIS OPENING AND FROM EXPLORING THEISSUE AT TRIAL. ............................................................................................................24X... THE COURT WENT BEYOND THE BOUNDS OF JUDICIAL PROPRIETYWHEN (I) IT SUSTAINED WITHOUT EXPLANATION GOVERNMENTOBJECTIONS UNACCOMPANIED BY A SPECIFIC GROUND; (II)REFUSED TO GRANT ANY DEFENSE SIDEBAR REQUESTS WHILEGRANTING THOSE OF THE GOVERNMENT; AND (III) REFUSED TOPERMIT ALEYNIKOV TO DISPLAY DURING SUMMATION TRANSCRIPTPAGES DEPICTING OVERRULED OBJECTIONS. ......................................................25..XI... THE GOVERNMENT OFFERS NO NEW ARGUMENT AS TO SEVERAL OFALEYNIKOV'S GROUNDS FOR A JUDGMENT OF ACQUITTAL OR ANEW TRIAL, ALL OF WHICH SHOULD BE GRANTED. ...........................................27**To see further documents as they are issued in the future (e.g. the opinion), enter this into search:The case is "U.S. v. Aleynikov, 1:10-cr-00096, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York"For the bureaucratic questions on how did this conviction happen in the first place, here is an overview of The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 19841984 - good year for such a thing.Cornell Law School has that Act in full text on its Legal Information Institute site; here is part of the section relevant to this case:18 USC § 1030 - Fraud and related activity in connection with computersRather dry reading, of course.

AWESOME!

The new trial is scheduled to start in NY this month, there were hearings last week and it could start as early as tomorrow (Monday, April 6) or on April 20.Sergey Aleynikov.org Many case links on one of his pages here.New Stumble in Trial of Former Goldman Programmer NYT April 1 2015"Just as the judge and Mr. Aleynikov's lawyer were settling in the courtroom of the State Supreme Court in Manhattan, the prosecutor from the Manhattan district attorney's office asked to delay the trial until summer, citing scheduling problems with witnesses who are traveling for business or on honeymoon. Or, as the prosecutor described it, "the mess we are in."When the judge balked, the prosecutor, Daniel Holmes, proposed a start date of April 20. He acknowledged that prosecutors had failed to clearly communicate the scheduling problem earlier - "I apologize for that," Mr. Holmes said - but warned that starting the trial now -would prejudice the people's case."Justice Daniel P. Conviser applauded Mr. Holmes for "falling on his sword," and remarked on his "integrity" as a prosecutor. But after a short recess, he rebuffed the request for a long delay, instead ordering the trial to begin on Monday."The only thing I'm hearing, reading between the lines, is you're not ready," the judge said. "I'm sorry, but you've had this case for two and a half years. At a certain point, that's your responsibility.""The case is People v. Aleynikov, New York State Supreme Court, New York County, No. 60353/2012.

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