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October 19th, 2012, 3:02 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: riccardo24thanks for the comment.two pges are because i'm not able to write a cv. maybe this one is only the second time i write it because I have been in universities for research for all the time. I have to admit that I have to learn how to do it. I didn't have any problem to get my current job because was linked to a research project. I want to switch because the place doesn'have a name and if I stay here i'll be dead. 1 year is even too much but I had to do it at the time.*I can't get it clear in my head what he should be applying for.you got the point in saying my possible position is not clear to me and maybe really depends on who I meet and how he reads the CV. there are very different type of firms I see.correct, surely I know how to program both c++ and java. I use both at the moment. about programming one thing is to eng. the code the other is to write down fast code. both are not easy.my issue is that is not an easy classification if you stop reading after 10 lines...and maybe even at the end.today to be classified is very important... you wear a 12 or 14 size what if you're a 13. another one you got this collaboration filtering. good. what if i don't fit in one of your classification. I'm not a great deal for google advs. :-) ok I'm going too far aah .*his CV implies that he has done the "wrong" kind of mathsI don't think I know the wrong math I had formal training in stoch calculus in the math department and other things that begins with stoch.. (good memories)applied stochastic processes should be my correct label. but maybe I have a good bullet in my cv. you know Engle papers on hf econometrics?. I can use them like no brainer because they are in 1-d I used them in n-d. maybe this one is the gold point for me.I have some probability pubblication and some more eng. publications.my phd project was a mix and a stayed more on probability. cs is only a label aka to get the funds where they were... if you read cs you think either progr or machine learning. not my case even if i used c++ almost always and I even used ml and rep trees uring my job. I studied them I lack only a bit of practice but i do it.thaks for the advices really appreciated. an upgrade to my version 11.b. maybe I'm always upgrading. but I attended about 100 courses my problem begins to be the time...are you thinking about CQF for me? once i wanted to do it. I even talked briefly with wilmott, but at the end was too expensive for me. i think it is a good brand.Then I decided for another quant master. full-time I learnt a lot...good brand not the same brand anyway.now i really understand the importance of the brand and of networking.probably I'm good more for a quant night out. ok now let's write down a model for the oil extraction and tomorrow we'll be rich. why not to try ricci flow for the city traffic?do you think the Japan tsunami was sub-diffusive?imagine a person with a lot of different scientific interests. imagine no control on what you can attend and on for how much time and full access to the library at the 4th floor and 5 floors in the other place. for years. you understand better. I had to know a lot of things and now i know more than before. i hope somone can understand me.my best course ever was the one on relativity that's was really the best one. I would suggest anybody to attend it. ok I didn't get too far into tensors but enough. Of course i'm not an expert. but once I used to write shellcodes. no #!/bin/bash...assembly ones.. %s vulnerability..that's part of the elite ones.ctors dtors..glibc pointers...I find out that if you understand math and prob and you have patience you can switch to different fields.CrashedMint I can understand you :-) but it's ok. you know... unless you wear like a bunny and not only wear like it... I think for me is a matter of time to be ready for the interview and find the right place better if in months and not 1 year or more. but to be ready is the point and it is better to know what it is right for you. I want to apply in the trading field. but even in that field there are different positions. I have some experience with tick/full depth data.hf is closed to astrophysic phds?I have a question. someone knows how the internal behaviour in a recruitment house. I mean there are different guys, if you write to one of them, does he pass the CV to one of his collegues in case? how does it work? *I assume your formal education didn't include this end of probability, so you need to learn it, it will show that you can gain that sort of skill and that you are committed to this line of work.If you can't or won't it sends a strong signal.that's really interesting. you think/know self study is still appreciated to get a real job. even writing it on the CV?I mean to what extent?Maybe it's not about the cv, but you have a general tendency to bloat things? Just look at this reply: It's like a full page. Check out the cv/resume of the guy Apple just bought: http://bill.stasior.com/ He was a major exec at amazon and he needs 1.5 pages. You're a beginner. Why would you need 2?
 
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October 20th, 2012, 2:04 pm

It's fractal science! CV size is a career-invariant property. The higher you go, the more details you will leave out.
 
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October 21st, 2012, 5:04 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: CrashedMintQuoteOriginally posted by: riccardo24thanks for the comment.two pges are because i'm not able to write a cv. maybe this one is only the second time i write it because I have been in universities for research for all the time. I have to admit that I have to learn how to do it. I didn't have any problem to get my current job because was linked to a research project. I want to switch because the place doesn'have a name and if I stay here i'll be dead. 1 year is even too much but I had to do it at the time.*I can't get it clear in my head what he should be applying for.you got the point in saying my possible position is not clear to me and maybe really depends on who I meet and how he reads the CV. there are very different type of firms I see.correct, surely I know how to program both c++ and java. I use both at the moment. about programming one thing is to eng. the code the other is to write down fast code. both are not easy.my issue is that is not an easy classification if you stop reading after 10 lines...and maybe even at the end.today to be classified is very important... you wear a 12 or 14 size what if you're a 13. another one you got this collaboration filtering. good. what if i don't fit in one of your classification. I'm not a great deal for google advs. :-) ok I'm going too far aah .*his CV implies that he has done the "wrong" kind of mathsI don't think I know the wrong math I had formal training in stoch calculus in the math department and other things that begins with stoch.. (good memories)applied stochastic processes should be my correct label. but maybe I have a good bullet in my cv. you know Engle papers on hf econometrics?. I can use them like no brainer because they are in 1-d I used them in n-d. maybe this one is the gold point for me.I have some probability pubblication and some more eng. publications.my phd project was a mix and a stayed more on probability. cs is only a label aka to get the funds where they were... if you read cs you think either progr or machine learning. not my case even if i used c++ almost always and I even used ml and rep trees uring my job. I studied them I lack only a bit of practice but i do it.thaks for the advices really appreciated. an upgrade to my version 11.b. maybe I'm always upgrading. but I attended about 100 courses my problem begins to be the time...are you thinking about CQF for me? once i wanted to do it. I even talked briefly with wilmott, but at the end was too expensive for me. i think it is a good brand.Then I decided for another quant master. full-time I learnt a lot...good brand not the same brand anyway.now i really understand the importance of the brand and of networking.probably I'm good more for a quant night out. ok now let's write down a model for the oil extraction and tomorrow we'll be rich. why not to try ricci flow for the city traffic?do you think the Japan tsunami was sub-diffusive?imagine a person with a lot of different scientific interests. imagine no control on what you can attend and on for how much time and full access to the library at the 4th floor and 5 floors in the other place. for years. you understand better. I had to know a lot of things and now i know more than before. i hope somone can understand me.my best course ever was the one on relativity that's was really the best one. I would suggest anybody to attend it. ok I didn't get too far into tensors but enough. Of course i'm not an expert. but once I used to write shellcodes. no #!/bin/bash...assembly ones.. %s vulnerability..that's part of the elite ones.ctors dtors..glibc pointers...I find out that if you understand math and prob and you have patience you can switch to different fields.CrashedMint I can understand you :-) but it's ok. you know... unless you wear like a bunny and not only wear like it... I think for me is a matter of time to be ready for the interview and find the right place better if in months and not 1 year or more. but to be ready is the point and it is better to know what it is right for you. I want to apply in the trading field. but even in that field there are different positions. I have some experience with tick/full depth data.hf is closed to astrophysic phds?I have a question. someone knows how the internal behaviour in a recruitment house. I mean there are different guys, if you write to one of them, does he pass the CV to one of his collegues in case? how does it work? *I assume your formal education didn't include this end of probability, so you need to learn it, it will show that you can gain that sort of skill and that you are committed to this line of work.If you can't or won't it sends a strong signal.that's really interesting. you think/know self study is still appreciated to get a real job. even writing it on the CV?I mean to what extent?Maybe it's not about the cv, but you have a general tendency to bloat things? Just look at this reply: It's like a full page. Check out the cv/resume of the guy Apple just bought: http://bill.stasior.com/ He was a major exec at amazon and he needs 1.5 pages. You're a beginner. Why would you need 2?To be fair this other dude doesn't need to convince anyone he's good, he just writes proficient in C++ and you kinda believe he's really into boost, threads and stuff like that.
 
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October 21st, 2012, 5:05 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaIt's fractal science! CV size is a career-invariant property. The higher you go, the more details you will leave out.Yes that's the point, CV size is gauge invariant.
 
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October 21st, 2012, 10:02 am

you're absolutely right. I'm convinced. and in few seconds you can read a very limited number of lines. if you're applying for a specific position you should know what is better to include.consider also that some recruiters just match the exact word literally. anyway if you're gates or derman you don't need one.
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October 25th, 2012, 9:46 am

riccardo, I think the issue you have is branding.You are selling a few years of your life for about the same as an entry level executive jet.A jet is a hugely complex confection of mechanical and electronic engineering with some expensive pimping up to make it look cool.The ads for them are actually really simple.You need to project a simple, easily digested image of yourself.It needs to be true, but does not have to bog down in detail, though that must be available for those that care.I suspect your CV does not read "I am an X" but instead "I can do a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h..."That's not optimal for you at this stage of your career and in the current business climate hiring is oriented round need rather than want, they need an X so they will hire an X. Your potential to do other cool stuff gets a lower weighting than in boom time.I think a very good exercise for you would be an ultra-minimal CV, forget all the crap about 1 pages vs 2, go for 0.5What are the 18 lines that sum up best what you can do and what you want to do ?
 
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October 25th, 2012, 9:50 am

Something like this
 
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October 25th, 2012, 10:39 am

Douglas Hofstadter, master of brevity.
 
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October 28th, 2012, 2:33 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: DevonFangsQuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaIt's fractal science! CV size is a career-invariant property. The higher you go, the more details you will leave out.Yes that's the point, CV size is gauge invariant.scale invariant
 
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October 28th, 2012, 6:53 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: UltravioletQuoteOriginally posted by: DevonFangsQuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaIt's fractal science! CV size is a career-invariant property. The higher you go, the more details you will leave out.Yes that's the point, CV size is gauge invariant.scale invariantmaybe conformal invariant?
 
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October 28th, 2012, 11:17 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: DevonFangsQuoteOriginally posted by: UltravioletQuoteOriginally posted by: DevonFangsQuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaIt's fractal science! CV size is a career-invariant property. The higher you go, the more details you will leave out.Yes that's the point, CV size is gauge invariant.scale invariantmaybe conformal invariant?I think the CV theory is just scale invariant.You reminded me of one evening around the Olympics in London. We were going back home late at night with my friend, a Russian mathematician, from a meeting with Cedric Villani. We were tired, hungry, slightly drunk and dressed too lightly. We probably looked like two cheap prostitutes. Near Cornhill (?) some black&white guys started shouting at us "Hey girls! Are you looking for some love?!". Our response was "No, we love only Fields medalists!". One of them explained to his colleagues "Heh! They like sportsmen!". Then we had to run because it slipped through my mouth that I wanted to spank him.
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October 29th, 2012, 8:28 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: UltravioletQuoteOriginally posted by: DevonFangsQuoteOriginally posted by: UltravioletQuoteOriginally posted by: DevonFangsQuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaIt's fractal science! CV size is a career-invariant property. The higher you go, the more details you will leave out.Yes that's the point, CV size is gauge invariant.scale invariantmaybe conformal invariant?I think the CV theory is just scale invariant.You reminded me of one evening around the Olympics in London. We were going back home late at night with my friend, a Russian mathematician, from a meeting with Cedric Villani. We were tired, hungry, slightly drunk and dressed too lightly. We probably looked like two cheap prostitutes. Near Cornhill (?) some black&white guys started shouting at us "Hey girls! Are you looking for some love?!". Our response was "No, we love only Fields medalists!". One of them explained to his colleagues "Heh! They like sportsmen!". Then we had to run because it slipped through my mouth that I wanted to spank him.You sound fun.