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Why The Ones Who Have Bad Grades Are Often The Ones Who Are Most Successful

December 16th, 2013, 3:13 pm

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December 16th, 2013, 3:37 pm

The writer did not provide much proof or figures.
 
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December 16th, 2013, 3:40 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: bluetrinThe writer did not provide much proof or figures.Maybe AV wants you to explain it in plain English. It might be a trick question.
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December 16th, 2013, 3:41 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: bluetrinThe writer did not provide much proof or figures.Maybe AV wants you to explain it in plain English. It might be a trick question.Especially if he grades my reply afterwards.
 
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December 16th, 2013, 3:46 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: bluetrinQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: bluetrinThe writer did not provide much proof or figures.Maybe AV wants you to explain it in plain English. It might be a trick question.Especially if he grades my reply afterwards.And if your english is not plain enough, then whoaaa watch out!
 
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December 16th, 2013, 3:51 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: bluetrinQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: bluetrinThe writer did not provide much proof or figures.Maybe AV wants you to explain it in plain English. It might be a trick question.Especially if he grades my reply afterwards.And if your english is not plain enough, then whoaaa watch out!Then, finally, I will be successful !
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December 16th, 2013, 4:08 pm

The article tries to convince readers believing that unable to score A in exam does not mean anything and then uses Bill Gates and Richard Branson as exception and concluded that having "bad grades are often the ones who are most successfully"The conclusion is highly misleading and bias as we all know where Bill and Steve were educated. Bill is a genius in programming while Richard is a great people connectorSo it looks to me that the author is an under-achiever and probably not competitive enough and then tries to comfort herself not being a high achiever in uni is still acceptable and she can be great one day - but she obviously did not look at the skills set those individual billionaires have. Tried to draw a equal sign between "bad grades" = "Most successful" is just stupid. Apparently Oxbridge / Imperial / LSE / Ivy League produced the largest number of billionaires in the world.Correct me if I am wrong
 
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December 16th, 2013, 4:10 pm

Here goes all my hopes of being part of 'the most sucessful'. Thank you BankingAnalyst ! PS: I do not think you missed anything except the last bit where you extrapolate facts about her
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December 16th, 2013, 4:55 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: BankingAnalystThe article tries to convince readers believing that unable to score A in exam does not mean anything and then uses Bill Gates and Richard Branson as exception and concluded that having "bad grades are often the ones who are most successfully"The conclusion is highly misleading and bias as we all know where Bill and Steve were educated. Bill is a genius in programming while Richard is a great people connectorSo it looks to me that the author is an under-achiever and probably not competitive enough and then tries to comfort herself not being a high achiever in uni is still acceptable and she can be great one day - but she obviously did not look at the skills set those individual billionaires have. Tried to draw a equal sign between "bad grades" = "Most successful" is just stupid. Apparently Oxbridge / Imperial / LSE / Ivy League produced the largest number of billionaires in the world.Correct me if I am wrongYou're not wrong. But in addition to skills, the above mentioned persons learned from their failures. I think the article is saying that the ability to learn from failures is more important than good grades.so here we have it: Great Skills + Learning from failure = Best chance for success. Grades don't really play that big a part.
 
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December 16th, 2013, 5:39 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: bluetrinQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: bluetrinThe writer did not provide much proof or figures.Maybe AV wants you to explain it in plain English. It might be a trick question.Especially if he grades my reply afterwards.F
 
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December 17th, 2013, 8:45 am

they lost me at the animated gif from dead poets society
 
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December 17th, 2013, 11:37 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: AnalyticalVegaQuoteOriginally posted by: BankingAnalystThe article tries to convince readers believing that unable to score A in exam does not mean anything and then uses Bill Gates and Richard Branson as exception and concluded that having "bad grades are often the ones who are most successfully"The conclusion is highly misleading and bias as we all know where Bill and Steve were educated. Bill is a genius in programming while Richard is a great people connectorSo it looks to me that the author is an under-achiever and probably not competitive enough and then tries to comfort herself not being a high achiever in uni is still acceptable and she can be great one day - but she obviously did not look at the skills set those individual billionaires have. Tried to draw a equal sign between "bad grades" = "Most successful" is just stupid. Apparently Oxbridge / Imperial / LSE / Ivy League produced the largest number of billionaires in the world.Correct me if I am wrongYou're not wrong. But in addition to skills, the above mentioned persons learned from their failures. I think the article is saying that the ability to learn from failures is more important than good grades.so here we have it: Great Skills + Learning from failure = Best chance for success. Grades don't really play that big a part."Not getting that A on the exam you spent all night studying for, is an experience."I think it rather means that they cannot learn effectively... and I wish my exams required only one night of studying (after all it was such a waste of time!). What I can agree with is that grades not always reflect real skills and understanding of the subject.
 
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December 18th, 2013, 6:26 pm

90% of people donot get straight A's. Success involves lot of luck. So there ia greater chance that C, D will succeed. Success in Business is more correlated with selling i.e. people skills. Academically brilliant people are less outgoing on an average.
 
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December 19th, 2013, 1:46 pm

Also Abhij - If we were to assume that success in business is uncorrelated to academic success because the majority are not A students justfrom stats we would observe a far higher number of successful business people with poor grades - if one did not do a preportionate calculation it would seem that academic smarts are a hinderance.