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Re: Models for Covid-19

February 10th, 2025, 2:12 pm

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Rona", is it for grumpiness?
Covid 19 > Corona virus > The Rona :)
Close enough
Did you know: That Weird Al Yankovic recorded My Balona in a toilet cubical as the reverb was good? :)
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Re: Models for Covid-19

May 24th, 2025, 11:05 am

My model, which I call the minimal SIR model, is a discrete stochastic process that is also a card game.
https://stochanswers.com/education/epidemic.html
Do you know how an epidemic grows? One infects two, two infect four or three or two or one or none. All with different probabilities and a weighted average of logistic growth.
 
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Re: Models for Covid-19

May 24th, 2025, 8:56 pm

I think the card game is closer to Galton-Watson branching process, developed by the two to model population growth, rather than to basic SIR. It simplifies it by assuming a constant number of new infections (two).
 
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Re: Models for Covid-19

May 25th, 2025, 6:30 am

The game, when scaled, averages to the standard SIR model. If I remember correctly the computer played it with R0 = 2, 3 and 4. The ratio of growth to exponential growth is logit-normally distributed. Note that the model debunks huge numbers of stochastic SIR models in which the modellers just make up any old noise. I also extended the game from complete graphs to social networks showing that lockdowns reduce the number of infected leading to second waves.
 
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Re: Models for Covid-19

May 25th, 2025, 11:39 am

The noise in stochastic SIR serves to estimate the variability of outcomes - important for evaluating high risk scenarios, designing policies, etc. Averaged trajectories are useless.
 
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Re: Models for Covid-19

May 27th, 2025, 8:24 pm

No, averaged trajectories serve to validate the model against the standard SIR model. The stochastic model on a complete graph is useless, the average when applied to a social network and its confidence intervals is useful.
 
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Re: Models for Covid-19

May 28th, 2025, 5:31 pm

Yeah, as I said, what matters are variability and confidence bounds, not the average :-)
 
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Re: Models for Covid-19

May 28th, 2025, 5:31 pm

Yeah, as I said, what matters are variability and confidence bounds, not the average :-)