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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 1:31 pm

  • Plague 9 — darkness for three days
    aka factorials
Possibly a light at the end of the tunnel?

BTW - I am going to the largest bookstore I know today (leaving soon!) - Math, Philosophy, Cosmology - I will even look for a copy of The Divine Comedy.
Have a wonderful old version with illustrations by Gustav Dore.

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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 2:39 pm

Hmmm.. It's not the oil that's the problem. Texas had (still has) no problems pumping out oodles of crude. Ditto the North Sea.

The people of Babylon have been killing each other since the Epipaleolithic Age. That's a good nine millennia before oil became important. Oil is just today's excuse.
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 2:45 pm

8) iphones

A part-time evangelist from our village built a replica of the Ark.


http://www.omroepflevoland.nl/nieuws/47 ... aangekomen

Q for T4A
1. how much sheet metal needed for the Ark?
2. how many behemoths can you fit in the Ark (trick queston!)?
The AI on my iPhone used Banach-Tarski to make the entire Ark from a roll of aluminum foil.

As for behemoths, they missed the boat!
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 2:45 pm

Maybe fire and brimstone as a warning?
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 3:00 pm

Hmmm.. It's not the oil that's the problem.  Texas had (still has) no problems pumping out oodles of crude.  Ditto the North Sea.

The people of Babylon have been killing each other since the Epipaleolithic Age.  That's a good nine millennia before oil became important.  Oil is just today's excuse.
Sure, oil is not a problem. Oil is not better or worse than aluminium. The problem is - OIL IDOLATRY.
And historically main sources of oil were in Babylon:  Iraq, for example. Iraq is in place of ancient Babylon. Iraq is modern Babylon.
Therefore "Babylon whore", playing with/by kings of all earth.
Uncomparable Iraq fire on oil plants after US war is clearly depicted in Revelation.
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 3:13 pm

La grande bande & secte crucigere,
Se dressera en Mesopotamie:
Du proche fleuue compagnie legere,
Que telle loy tiendra pour ennemie.
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 3:37 pm

Hmmm.. It's not the oil that's the problem.  Texas had (still has) no problems pumping out oodles of crude.  Ditto the North Sea.

The people of Babylon have been killing each other since the Epipaleolithic Age.  That's a good nine millennia before oil became important.  Oil is just today's excuse.
Sure, oil is not a problem. Oil is not better or worse than aluminium. The problem is - OIL IDOLATRY.
And historically main sources of oil were in Babylon:  Iraq, for example. Iraq is in place of ancient Babylon. Iraq is modern Babylon.
Therefore "Babylon whore", playing with/by kings of all earth.
Uncomparable Iraq fire on oil plants after US war is clearly depicted in Revelation.
Texas seems to have survived oil idolatry.

In the time of Babylon, petroleum in the form of bitumen was a very minor commodity used in construction, boat building, and craft work. It was neither precious like silver, gold, aromatics, or jewels nor was it a bulk essential like grain, dates, sesame, livestock, etc. It looks like 500 talents (1 talent ≈ 30 kilos) of bitumen cost 20 shekels of silver (1 shekel ≈ 8 grams) which is roughly 1 metric ton of bitumen for a mere ounce of silver.
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 3:44 pm

Texas seems to have survived oil idolatry.
What do you mean? Texas is built on oil money.
Then Texas is later built on microchips money.
US destroyer Bush-Jr, who started Babylon War is from Texas. They voted for him.
The recent big drought in Texas was just a warning.
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 4:17 pm

Texas seems to have survived oil idolatry.
What do you mean? Texas is built on oil money.
Then Texas is later built on microchips money.
US destroyer Bush-Jr, who started Babylon War is from Texas. They voted for him.
The recent big drought in Texas was just a warning.
Bush (and father) were carpetbaggers from the elite East Coast, not Texans.

The drought is irrelevant to Texas (agriculture being a mere 1.3% of the state's GDP).
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 4:23 pm

Babylon idolised base 60 numbers. Later in CDC computers,
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 4:32 pm

"No one could learn that song except the 144,000! who had been redeemed from the earth." Revelation 14:3–5
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 8:39 pm

Very good. 

Working with more numbers (and strange creatures), this came to mind:

Daniel 7:1-7 KJV

7 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 9:11 pm

Very good. 

Working with more numbers (and strange creatures), this came to mind:

Daniel 7:1-7 KJV

7 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
More likely the poor fellow ate some ergot-infested grain and hallucinated everything. Food quality was not the best back then especially if the grain was from the bottom of a damp granary.
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 9:23 pm

Ergotamine not a bad hypothesis.  Still I love the fantastical dream descriptions.

My dreams are mostly about packing up old dorm rooms or apartments and long road trips with all of my stuff, where I am always the driver, the vehicle is generally very large, and I am not quite sure where I am going, but it is fun and I am up for the adventure.  

I have never even been inside the cab of an 18-wheeler IRL, but I like driving, and in the dreams, I figure out how to handle it.  :D 

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There I go again, long trip to nowhere, but it's warm inside and the music is cool.  :)
 
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Re: Apocalypse (Revelation) Biblical explanation.

February 2nd, 2018, 9:52 pm

My latest and most vivid dream involved being in a 737 that was being raised 15 stories up on a narrow rotating pedestal inside a glass dome just prior to take-off.