Dominic,thanks, you are right.YL

Well, to sum up......The word anti-Semitic, is redundant in its intended use of meaning anti-Jewish. Anti-Jewish, would be a more consistent word to use when meaning opposed to or against Jews/Jewishness. I would go a step further to say that anti-Semitic should be reserved for the small portion of the world which is actually opposed to, and or against Semitic peoples. And I believe the person who forever redundantly created the term, anti-Semitic, is Wilhelm Marr.Here is a nice little article about the etymology of the word, Marsden.http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-semitismJames, hopefully this link isn't too much like the cracked out stuff you see on the internet. Maybe if people would realize that both Arabs and Jews are Semitic, they would act more brotherly? I know, I am still young and naive, James.

QuoteI know, I am still young and naive, James.Sigh....what I wouldn't trade to be your age again, and as smart as you are now (At your age I was considerably stupider than you....you have demonstrated over and over again how bright you are).As far as the Sons of Abraham, of Sarah and Hagar, making peace. Amen. - James (a son of Sarah, and Hagar myself).

QuoteOriginally posted by: davefPeople might find it that there is a group of religious Jews who object to the existence of the State of Israel on purely religious grounds. These people are anti-Israel, but not anti-Semitic.Many religious Jews oppose the existence of the State of Israel, because in their reading Israel should be established by the Messiah, who hasn't come yet. Another group of religious Jews live in Israel but refuse to fight for it on religious grounds.Zionism was invented, promoted and implemented largely by non-religious Jews. Locations other than biblical Israel were considered seriously. The main intention was to gain protection from anti-semitism (conventional definition). Many secular Jews felt that having a religion without a nation left them open to persecution, and this was long before anyone dreamed up Nazi death camps.QuoteOriginally posted by: DCFCFact is that those who seem to feel that anti-jewish racism is somehow worse than other variants have managed to engineer a situation where this term is rarely used by its definition.Substitute "different from" for "worse than" and I agree with you. That's why we need specific terms for different kinds of racism. Some people want to seek out and kill members of another group, others just want them out of sight, others want to enslave them, still others want to convert them. Some believe the hated group is inferior and will drag them down, others think the hated group is superior and will take over if not repressed. Sometimes the hatred is based on physical characteristics, sometimes on cultural practices, sometimes on genetics. These differences may seem subtle to outsiders, but they shape powerfully the experience of the victims.If I had to pick a "worst," I think it's organized economic slavery based on genetics. I guess killing someone is worse than making them a slave, but institutionalized slavery spreads farther and lasts longer. And hatred based on culture at least gives the victim a choice.In some ways, traditional (i.e. pre-Nazi) anti-semitism was among the lighter forms of racism. In many places and times, Jews were able to live and prosper in non-Jewish countries, with freedom and dignity. Although there were many incidents of explusion and expropriation (England and Spain among others), massacres and severe repression, such things were visited upon other groups as well.But I prefer not to rank racism by objective criteria. It's the perception of the victim that matters. Other people may find your suffering trivial, but if you suffer, you suffer.