I just looked up some details today. What a load of crap. There is middle aged couple from NJ, a writer for a Spanish newspaper, and a "highly trained agent" Anna Chapman, who is "007-worthy beauty" and "Victoria Secret material". In reality the chick is average looking girl, with one made up picture above average. She has Linked in profile with odd unimportant jobs, one of them actually "Slave" at Barclays and a general aura of someone who is bursting at the seams trying to oversell her persona. What kind of spying could these guys have done? She sold Russians utilities stock ranking from some junior analyst at Barclays who screwed her? I guess to look at Anna Chapman surveillance tapes is more fun than watch over some guys who go on long vacations to Aghanistan and Yemen. But what crack are these people smoking if they think they can actually sell this spy ring to anybody?

Linked In Anna ChapmanGood thought, z.Actually like the entrepreneurial stuff and the picture is not so bad...

well, note that she never had access to any kind of classified information or otherwise information valuable for any government. If she did any meaningful work, it's with sales to Russian clients. It's a tough job, but all she could have is contacts among affluent Russians. Maybe she could be some low level US spy, but she is just not going to tell FSB or whoever in Russia anything they don't already know about meaningfully rich Russians. In terms of her looks -- there is no argument about taste, but she is not a James Bond beauty by a long shot.

I am starting to look at this differently - go back to the original purported message. Did these folks make an agreement with the Russian government, come over here with no real intention of spying. Lived the life here, found a certain milieu, in her case, towards venture capital and hedge funds.The message from the goverment reminds them, you were sent over to the US to provide us with information and that is why we paid salary, houses, cars, etc.So did these "spies" use the ticket and break the agreement?

QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarI am starting to look at this differently - go back to the original purported message. Did these folks make an agreement with the Russian government, come over here with no real intention of spying. Lived the life here, found a certain milieu, in her case, towards venture capital and hedge funds.The message from the goverment reminds them, you were sent over to the US to provide us with information and that is why we paid salary, houses, cars, etc.So did these "spies" use the ticket and break the agreement?Dunno, you saying these "spies" didn't do shit and Russians were pissed? Maybe, or maybe not, but it's rather irrelevant to what FBI did. Why did americans arrest spies who according to your theory didn't do shit, that is kind of a question we are talking about.

It is still kind of a "Gotcha."The main thing with this is these arrests so close to Medvedev's visit. No way is that a coincidence.But who is sending what message to whom?Keep reading and listening...someone, somewhere, knows something.

QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarIt is still kind of a "Gotcha."The main thing with this is these arrests so close to Medvedev's visit. No way is that a coincidence.But who is sending what message to whom?Keep reading and listening...someone, somewhere, knows something. Aha. I know who is sending this message. I know well who they represent. In the words of Osbourne Cox, they represent the idiocy of today. Who this stupid moronic ass Janet Napolitano is sending her message when she says we'll fight terrorism by not letting people pee in the last hour of the flight? It is a message from a moron to God -- "God, please relieve the earth from the burden of my stupidity".

Think harder, zerdna. Our work here will be greatly enhanced by Russian intellect and cooperation.The time frame on the intercepted messages is a key - maybe the Russians were trying to reactivate their AWOL spies in time for the visit. That is something you would want to monitor as closely as possible - what was being said behind closed doors. Planning meetings before the friendly double Presidential cheeseburger and all that.When M was out of the room - off in his luxury hotel at night - what phone calls were made? Please fax us copies of BO's meeting notes... Anyway, this is how I will write the screenplay - Russian spies infiltrated the landscape, turned to the American Way, and forgot the mission.Would their handlers be able to pull them back in? What happens to rogue spies? A bullet and no record of existence. But then the ones who come to kill also just disappear into the land of swimming pools and Toys R Us?

QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarThink harder, zerdna. Our work here will be greatly enhanced by Russian intellect and cooperation.The time frame on the intercepted messages is a key - maybe the Russians were trying to reactivate their AWOL spies in time for the visit. That is something you would want to monitor as closely as possible - what was being said behind closed doors. Planning meetings before the friendly double Presidential cheeseburger and all that.When M was out of the room - off in his luxury hotel at night - what phone calls were made? Please fax us copies of BO's meeting notes... Anyway, this is how I will write the screenplay - Russian spies infiltrated the landscape, turned to the American Way, and forgot the mission.Would their handlers be able to pull them back in? What happens to rogue spies? A bullet and no record of existence. But then the ones who come to kill also just disappear into the land of swimming pools and Toys R Us?Track, the league of morons is victorious It's the only end. Ray Bradbury has this story it in one of the Martian Chronicles when disciplined, military advanced martians conquer the earth. In the end all they are vomiting from big macs, coke, and chewing gum, and barely able to drag their ass home.

Ray Bradbury - great! But how about this: failing to snuff their wayward spies out easily, the Russian handlers and "C" deliberately sent messages that could be intercepted by the FBI, at just the right time too.Looking at a long time in prison now and a very entertaining media circus to go with it. The operatives abroad will become reacquainted with many old memories about The American Mind in the coming weeks. Maybe learn a few new things as well, but it's not a requirement.Surely we will announce in the media: "Oh my God, what if they found this and that, and these power plant grids, and our security breaches here and here and over there. And these sensitive documents..." Freedom of the Press, just great, isn't it?Next set of spies that comes in will get right down to business.To be continued on the upcoming *movie* spinoff of 24.

QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarRay Bradbury - great! But how about this: failing to snuff their wayward spies out easily, the Russian handlers and "C" deliberately sent messages that could be intercepted by the FBI, at just the right time too.Looking at a long time in prison now and a very entertaining media circus to go with it. The operatives abroad will become reacquainted with many old memories about The American Mind in the coming weeks. Maybe learn a few new things as well, but it's not a requirement.Surely we will announce in the media: "Oh my God, what if they found this and that, and these power plant grids, and our security breaches here and here and over there. And these sensitive documents..." Freedom of the Press, just great, isn't it?Next set of spies that comes in will get right down to business.To be continued on the upcoming *movie* spinoff of 24. All power related things they'll find are gonna be dildos and secret beaches will be the nude ones, where "C" as you call her, is photographed topless. She'll go around the talk show circus after this whole thing goes belly up. Hopefully she'll make some money doing interviews, talk shows, and a book "how i was a russian spy". She could also have a show afterwards in Russia singing lulabies to little children.

QuoteOriginally posted by: zerdnaAll power related things they'll find are gonna be dildos and secret beaches will be the nude ones, where "C" as you call her, is photographed topless. ...a book "how i was a russian spy". Haha - perhaps you are a little rusty with your speed reading and total retention of classified documents; this is the "C" that I meant:"You were sent to USA for long-term service trip. Your education, your bank accounts, car, house, etc - all these serve one goal: fulfil your main mission, ie, to search and develop ties in policymaking circles in US and send intels (intelligence reports) to C (Centre)," the intercepted message said, according to the indictment..."But that is ok - your other points are well taken. Agree about talks shows and Anna very likely has some powerful attorneys in her circle of friends, so she is one of the most likely of the Russians 11 to beat the rap.Not sure if she is a lullaby type, but maybe a new fashion design firm: UnderCover Wear: "So cool, you could be caught dead in it."

So this 007 Russian spy girl worked for several hedge funds and banks.Was it an attempt to introduce negative volatility in the west?

QuoteOriginally posted by: CollectorSo this 007 Russian spy girl worked for several hedge funds and banks.Was it an attempt to introduce negative volatility in the west?Negative volatility first and then negative probability. A conspiracy to blow up our beloved capitalist economy (even if I think that the russian nowadays are the most Capitalists of the world )I remember when I was with the russian girl, she told me that there is a rumor in Russia about a FSB special unit composed of top model members I really think that seduction is one of the best way to collect information. EDIT: I know that all of you want to know how to date a russian girl

Spy vs. Spy IIThis is hilarious:The Spy Who Came Out to the Suburbs - NYT June 30(Very clever play on The Spy Who Came in from the Cold - I wish I had said that!) Anyway:"Conspiracy theorists are already asking, why did the arrests come just days after President Obama?s friendly cheeseburger summit with Russian President Dimitri A. Medvedev? Was the White House sending a message, or the F.B.I. trying to sandbag détente? Most likely neither. The criminal complaint reveals that on Saturday, a Russian-speaking F.B.I. undercover agent met with Anna Chapman, one of the illegals, and instructed her to hand a fake passport to another supposed illegal the next day, using this password exchange: "Excuse me, but haven't we met in California last summer?"; "No, I think it was the Hamptons." (The Hamptons!) But Anna Chapman, it seems, smelled a rat. She bought a cell phone that could not be traced to her and may have called Moscow to find out what was going on. She never showed up for her meeting on Sunday. The F.B.I., fearing the game was up, moved in and arrested her and nine others..."That is a pretty lame trap - any of us can see that. As to introducing negative vol - yes, I think so.But nothing compares to David X. Li's WMD, the Gaussian Destructor. Thank you, China.