QuoteI was expecting you to be one of the first to offer $20,000 for a front row seat, but your $1.99 offer did not impress at all.We are talking about the termination of a human life here, but if that is how you value farmer and/or myself, you may have constructed an actuarial model that supports your opinion.I thought you'd want to thank me for how much i valued your show -- after all i was the highest bidder. I confess, i overbid just out of respect for you.

Well, you have a lovely weekend, zerdna.You have slipped so far in the rankings that I really shouldn't spend time with you any more.

QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarWell, you have a lovely weekend, zerdna.You have slipped so far in the rankings that I really shouldn't spend time with you any more. I wasn't aware there is some ranking. I am sure you have to follow it if it exists. Don't discount me completely though -- i might just call you a slut a few times and I'll get back up into the short list of your passions. But then again i probably won't. So, indeed, you really shouldn't spend time with me any more.

Never mind rankings.You are delisted.Farewell, comrade. Think of me when you are old and gray and your pension is only buying you a few tins of cat food every month.

QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstar Think of me when you are old and gray This is such a cliche, why rejected women always have this irrational belief that when men becomes old he wants to think about some old witch which was dumped long time ago.

Of course it is a clichee (would zerdna expect anything better from me?), but the catfood is a nice touch.

QuoteOriginally posted by: ErrrbQuoteOriginally posted by: trackstar Think of me when you are old and gray This is such a cliche, why rejected women always have this irrational belief that when men becomes old he wants to think about some old witch which was dumped long time ago.I bet you are real heartbreaker

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangel QuoteOriginally posted by: ErrrbQuoteOriginally posted by: trackstar Think of me when you are old and gray This is such a cliche, why rejected women always have this irrational belief that when men becomes old he wants to think about some old witch which was dumped long time ago.I bet you are real heartbreakerI thought you said below that you are not betting type

QuoteOriginally posted by: ErrrbQuoteOriginally posted by: daveangel QuoteOriginally posted by: ErrrbQuoteOriginally posted by: trackstar Think of me when you are old and gray This is such a cliche, why rejected women always have this irrational belief that when men becomes old he wants to think about some old witch which was dumped long time ago.I bet you are real heartbreakerI thought you said below that you are not betting typeOnly when it comes to a sure a thing

QuoteOf course its not an accident as it was adopted from the English colonialists.How about people who were working but didn't get paid a wage and couldn't therefore own anything ?Voting right was not considered something that should be given out of compassion to anyone who asks. It was supposed to be a prerogative of the independent citizenry. Conversation of slavery is a different one, but slavery ended not because slaves got a vote and voted slavery out. Point is, if i pay for your food every day, you should not be the one who decides to which restaurant we go every day. Maybe taxpaying is not the best proxy, but is a reasonable one and a better test for voting right than breathing.

QuoteOriginally posted by: ErrrbQuoteOriginally posted by: zerdnaIt's not an accident that original US constitution gave full voting rights to people who owned property. Giving vote now only to people who pay taxes makes sense to me -- an issue with women belongs to another thread about playing russian roulette with trackstar.You are stepping into dangerous territory with this tax/vote proposal. Expect hysterical liberals to call you a racist .Naturally I would expect hysterical fascists like Errrb to erect this straw man. Zerdna's proposal is classist not racist (although he has proved himself a racist and a misogynist on other occasions). The superficial logic behind it is based on ignoring how people acquire wealth and the question of who should pay what taxes if any. The earth is the common property of all. So according to zerdna's citing of the original constitution, everyone should get the vote. And if those who want to use the earth's resources pay the earth's community to do so then nobody need pay any taxes. People who are creative in using those resources get their reward in the market place where they sell their products. They don't get the exclusive right to run the government too.

Quote Voting right was not considered something that should be given out of compassion to anyone who asks. You are of course assuming that this right is someone else's to bestow upon others. I guess this guess from living in the Soviet Union at a formative period in your life.Quote It was supposed to be a prerogative of the independent citizenry. What is independent ? What is a citizen ? Where does a "government by the people and for the people" fit in your world ?Quote Maybe taxpaying is not the best proxy, but is a reasonable one and a better test for voting right than breathing. How about limiting the number of votes and then getting rich people to buy them ?Quote Point is, if i pay for your food every day, you should not be the one who decides to which restaurant we go every day.Your homespun philosophies are a thing of beauty.

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelYou are of course assuming that this right is someone else's to bestow upon others. I guess this guess from living in the Soviet Union at a formative period in your life.Unlike the income tax, which arises from Natural Law.

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelQuote Voting right was not considered something that should be given out of compassion to anyone who asks. You are of course assuming that this right is someone else's to bestow upon others. I guess this guess from living in the Soviet Union at a formative period in your life.First of all, you would adore democracy of the Soviet Union given a chance, like the most of the lefties did. Everyone voted there, the Communist Party made sure of it. And yes, the right to vote is just like the right to drive a car. It is given by other people, not by some socialist God that exists in the ether, like you imagine. It's not any different than driving a car and not some sacred inborn right. Historically in the US it was expanded from the set of people who were property owners to a much wider set. Same goes to my philosophies -- they are homespun, but so are the rest of philosophies. They didn't fall from the sky, like you imagined. You are not able to understand it because the only thing you are capable of is repeating what others told you, you don't have your homespun philosophies, just someone elses.

Quote And yes, the right to vote is just like the right to drive a car is given by other people, not by some socialist God that exists in the ether, like you imagine. you have this unfortunate habit of trying to pigeonhole your adversaries just so that you can make a completely silly point. Quote Historically in the US it was expanded from the set of people who were property owners to a much wider set.Yes - just as well because under the old system the US of A would have stagnated as would have the rest of world. In your world, Donald Trump would probably have more of a vote than Warren Buffet simply because he has more property. Quote You are not able to understand it because the only thing you are capable of is repeating what others told you, you don't have your homespun philosophies, just someone elses.sadly your philosophy is so simplistic that even my cat understands it.