Great Moments in European History

katastrofa · March 24th, 2013, 11:48 am

PS. Future historians of late XX-th century Eastern European culture will find it pretty amusing that the eternal flamewar about the treatment of post-communists in 1989 made its way to, of all places, Wilmott forum.Zeromski wrote the famous witticism "Elephant and the Polish Question". It's time for a new one, "Quantitative Finance and the Post-Communist Question".

Ultraviolet · March 24th, 2013, 11:51 am

katastrofa · March 24th, 2013, 11:53 am

I have infected this forum with all the most ridiculous aspects of Polish domestic politics. My job is complete.

tags · March 24th, 2013, 11:53 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: UltravioletYou look familiar to me.Are you Ultraviolet Sabatini ?

katastrofa · March 24th, 2013, 11:56 am

Apart from her hair, Ultraviolet looks very Ukrainian. Including the chainsaw.

Gamal · March 24th, 2013, 11:58 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaI don't have to bet, this was 20 years ago and Mazowiecki himself said that they were loyal to him. You've made my day.BTW - who is this Żeromski? (the dot aboce Z is due to Wiki) And why all Polish (and some Finnish) names end with -ski?

Ultraviolet · March 24th, 2013, 12:01 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaApart from her hair, Ultraviolet looks very Ukrainian. Including the chainsaw.Whatever it means. Brum-brrrum-brummm...

katastrofa · March 24th, 2013, 12:05 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: GamalQuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaI don't have to bet, this was 20 years ago and Mazowiecki himself said that they were loyal to him. You've made my day.You're welcome.

Gamal · March 24th, 2013, 6:13 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaQuote It was a process, katastrofa, and the fall of Berlin Wall was a symbolic summary.Exactly: a symbolic summary, not a start. Like I said, Germans stole the limelight.We haven"t stolen anything. The fall of the Berlin Wall was not only spectacular but more important - irreversible. And forming of a partly non-communist government was not, when army and secret services still were in communist hands and Russian troops were there. True, they didn't use their power, because something important happend elsewhere.Fallen Berlin Wall deserves to be a symbol of the fall of communism. What else would you propose? The murder of Ceausescu by his old friends? A partly free election in Poland? Joke.

katastrofa · March 24th, 2013, 11:13 pm

Communists in Poland WANTED to cede power, because they didn't want to be responsible for a completely fucked up economy they left behind.And what's that "we"? I thought you were Egyptian, not German?

Gamal · March 25th, 2013, 6:51 am

I'm a priviledged German. I enjoy the German living standards but don't bear the German historic responsability. I was actually born in Egypt but have very little in common with this country, even the language is evaporating.

katastrofa · March 25th, 2013, 7:36 am

If you're not of German blood, and not of German land, then you're not German. You're Gastarbeiter, lad

Gamal · March 25th, 2013, 8:07 am

Feel free to offend people, all you say, you say about yourself.

katastrofa · March 25th, 2013, 8:10 am

Oh, touchy!

rmax · March 25th, 2013, 10:41 am

One important date for European History: Varius loosing his Legion (tenth??) in the forests of Germany. That drew the European map for the next 2k years or so.