QuoteOriginally posted by: outrunI think he's crazy... He thinks that the definition of "technical default" is up for hassling, and that European countries can give a 2bln loan on the last day without any democratic process to vote for that. He played poker with his country but it wasn't a game of poker!That's democracy; you love it or you hate it. And it's a reaction to those EU bullies like Dijsselbloem and Junkers. I really dislike them. I'm gonna vote for Wilders.

We are in the same team again, Cuchulainn. Technically, so is Nigel Farage.There's no deficit of letters in Cyrillic alphabet. What's Anthis' name?

QuoteOriginally posted by: outrunI think he's crazy... He thinks that the definition of "technical default" is up for hassling, and that European countries can give a 2bln loan on the last day without any democratic process to vote for that. He played poker with his country but it wasn't a game of poker!Not crazy, just a bunch of wankers

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: outrunI think he's crazy... He thinks that the definition of "technical default" is up for hassling, and that European countries can give a 2bln loan on the last day without any democratic process to vote for that. He played poker with his country but it wasn't a game of poker!That's democracy; you love it or you hate it. And it's a reaction to those EU bullies like Dijsselbloem and Junkers. I really dislike them. I'm gonna vote for Wilders.I cant call Dijselbloem and Junkers bullies, albeit Troika has done plenty of mistakes, I tend to believe that mistakes are unavoidable in such a project.I am more troikan than the troikans themselves. EU is a club, and every club has rules. Euro is not just piece of paper. Its a vision shared by the people of Europe. Being such, it shouldnt be vulnerable to demagogy and petty politics.Tsipras and his mates, not only refused to collaborate, but actually tried to sabotage Troika implemented policies, in order to capitalize political gains, from an unhappy electorate. His actions prevented progress to finish austerity one day earlier. He did no good to the less privileged people he claims he supports.He must be crashed both inside and outside the country. just to be a paradigm to avoid for the rest of Europe demagogues.

QuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaThere's no deficit of letters in Cyrillic alphabet. What's Anthis' name?Anthis or Άνθης. With a theta, like anthology.

QuoteOriginally posted by: AnthisQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: outrunI think he's crazy... He thinks that the definition of "technical default" is up for hassling, and that European countries can give a 2bln loan on the last day without any democratic process to vote for that. He played poker with his country but it wasn't a game of poker!That's democracy; you love it or you hate it. And it's a reaction to those EU bullies like Dijsselbloem and Junkers. I really dislike them. I'm gonna vote for Wilders.I cant call Dijselbloem and Junkers bullies, albeit Troika has done plenty of mistakes, I tend to believe that mistakes are unavoidable in such a project.I am more troikan than the troikans themselves. EU is a club, and every club has rules. Euro is not just piece of paper. Its a vision shared by the people of Europe. Being such, it shouldnt be vulnerable to demagogy and petty politics.Tsipras and his mates, not only refused to collaborate, but actually tried to sabotage Troika implemented policies, in order to capitalize political gains, from an unhappy electorate. His actions prevented progress to finish austerity one day earlier. He did no good to the less privileged people he claims he supports.He must be crashed both inside and outside the country. just to be a paradigm to avoid for the rest of Europe demagogues.Telegraph on GreeceQuoteThis is not the first time that the ECB has strayed far from its mandate. It forced the Irish state to make good the claims of junior bondholders of Anglo-Irish Bank, saddling Irish taxpayers with extra debt equal to 20pc of GDP. This was done purely in order to save the European banking system at a time when the ECB was refusing to do the job itself, betraying the primary task of a central bank to act as a lender of last resort. It sent secret letters to the elected leaders of Spain and Italy in August 2011 demanding detailed changes to internal laws for which it had no mandate or technical competence, even meddling in neuralgic issues of labour law that had previously led to the assassination of two Italian officials by the Red Brigades.

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: outrunI think he's crazy... He thinks that the definition of "technical default" is up for hassling, and that European countries can give a 2bln loan on the last day without any democratic process to vote for that. He played poker with his country but it wasn't a game of poker!That's democracy; you love it or you hate it. And it's a reaction to those EU bullies like Dijsselbloem and Junkers. I really dislike them. I'm gonna vote for Wilders.good choice

QuoteOriginally posted by: outrunWasn't is so that a former Greek goverment lied about figures so that they could join the euro? Also banks like Goldman Sachs took their share. This right now looks like the inevitable consequence of some very early mistakes, lies and bad deals.Portugal, Italy, and Spain also fudged numbers to stay in the ERM (Exchange Rate Mechanism) leading up to the adoption of the Euro.You can read about the convergence criteria and "The Snake" from a number of good sources.It's worth noting that the UK was also on track to join the EZ and could not hold the line - it was forced out of the currency band by speculators including George Soros in 1992. This is quite a story - "breaking the Bank of England" which had tried to prop up the pound and could not do it.See "Black Wednesday". Soros made a few billion on this, but lost a few billion during the Russian crisis in '98. EMU (and enlargement), with their many sagas, were hot topics when I was in grad school. It has been quite surprising to see how fast the EU has grown since then. The enlargement since then is an influential, though secondary, saga now - the rapid growth is expensive.

QuoteOriginally posted by: AnthisQuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaThere's no deficit of letters in Cyrillic alphabet. What's Anthis' name?Anthis or Άνθης. With a theta, like anthology. :)I think it's simply Антис. Sounds a bit like a diminutive of Antoni/Антони -- Antoś, Tony.(I'm not Russian, not in the slightest bit.)

QuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaQuoteOriginally posted by: AnthisQuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaThere's no deficit of letters in Cyrillic alphabet. What's Anthis' name?Anthis or Άνθης. With a theta, like anthology. :)I think it's simply Антис. Sounds a bit like a diminutive of Antoni/Антони -- Antoś, Tony.(I'm not Russian, not in the slightest bit.)Instead of Ukrainian letters maybe Russian bI form as inсукин сын !

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QuoteOriginally posted by: UltravioletAlways seeing the bright side :-)Want to come round for some vegan cookies?