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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

April 19th, 2018, 8:08 pm

I was not able to assemble the chair, because I was not able to assemble the flat-packed assemble robot that came with it. So still no IKEA chair for me, all in the trash can (sorted for recycling)
 
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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

May 18th, 2018, 10:26 am

spyce in boston
(it's trendy to misspell words?)
 
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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

May 24th, 2018, 6:48 pm

Here's the accident in another video where it's easy to step through the timing. It looks like there is about 2 seconds from the time the woman becomes visible to the moment of the crash. While an impact may have been unavoidable, it's very troubling that the self-driving system (not to mention the safety operator) didn't seem to react at all prior to the collision -- of course, we don't know that for sure. 

But, let's say there was indeed no reaction. Surely, the systems must be responsive enough to (potentially) react in 2 secs if an object is detected, even if the reaction still results in a collision. Some obvious possibilities: a) the poor lady was not seen by the lidar;  b) she was seen, but the system reaction time was too sluggish (software bloat?); c) she was seen, but misclassified as -- I don't know -- say, a piece of blowing debris in the road that the software decided was acceptable to hit; or?? I'm sure others can continue the list ...

The case c) poses some interesting issues because it is obvious from practical driving that often you see an object (like a blowing newspaper) and have to make a quick judgement that it is acceptable to hit it. In 10 years, when we all go shopping for our first AV, it puts the idea of taking the vehicle out for a test drive in a whole new light. Maybe everybody will wait for the proverbial dark and stormy night.
Unbelievable. I never expected the possibility d) that "According to Uber, emergency braking maneuvers are not enabled while the vehicle is under computer control, to reduce the potential for erratic vehicle behavior,” investigators said.
 
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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

May 24th, 2018, 7:04 pm

Here's the accident in another video where it's easy to step through the timing. It looks like there is about 2 seconds from the time the woman becomes visible to the moment of the crash. While an impact may have been unavoidable, it's very troubling that the self-driving system (not to mention the safety operator) didn't seem to react at all prior to the collision -- of course, we don't know that for sure. 

But, let's say there was indeed no reaction. Surely, the systems must be responsive enough to (potentially) react in 2 secs if an object is detected, even if the reaction still results in a collision. Some obvious possibilities: a) the poor lady was not seen by the lidar;  b) she was seen, but the system reaction time was too sluggish (software bloat?); c) she was seen, but misclassified as -- I don't know -- say, a piece of blowing debris in the road that the software decided was acceptable to hit; or?? I'm sure others can continue the list ...

The case c) poses some interesting issues because it is obvious from practical driving that often you see an object (like a blowing newspaper) and have to make a quick judgement that it is acceptable to hit it. In 10 years, when we all go shopping for our first AV, it puts the idea of taking the vehicle out for a test drive in a whole new light. Maybe everybody will wait for the proverbial dark and stormy night.
Unbelievable. I never expected the possibility d) that "According to Uber, emergency braking maneuvers are not enabled while the vehicle is under computer control, to reduce the potential for erratic vehicle behavior,” investigators said.
Sounds like a criminal act to me.
 
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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

May 24th, 2018, 7:07 pm

Here's the accident in another video where it's easy to step through the timing. It looks like there is about 2 seconds from the time the woman becomes visible to the moment of the crash. While an impact may have been unavoidable, it's very troubling that the self-driving system (not to mention the safety operator) didn't seem to react at all prior to the collision -- of course, we don't know that for sure. 

But, let's say there was indeed no reaction. Surely, the systems must be responsive enough to (potentially) react in 2 secs if an object is detected, even if the reaction still results in a collision. Some obvious possibilities: a) the poor lady was not seen by the lidar;  b) she was seen, but the system reaction time was too sluggish (software bloat?); c) she was seen, but misclassified as -- I don't know -- say, a piece of blowing debris in the road that the software decided was acceptable to hit; or?? I'm sure others can continue the list ...

The case c) poses some interesting issues because it is obvious from practical driving that often you see an object (like a blowing newspaper) and have to make a quick judgement that it is acceptable to hit it. In 10 years, when we all go shopping for our first AV, it puts the idea of taking the vehicle out for a test drive in a whole new light. Maybe everybody will wait for the proverbial dark and stormy night.
Unbelievable. I never expected the possibility d) that "According to Uber, emergency braking maneuvers are not enabled while the vehicle is under computer control, to reduce the potential for erratic vehicle behavior,” investigators said.
Sounds like a criminal act to me.
so who goes to jail, the car, the driver, or the programmer?
 
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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

May 24th, 2018, 7:12 pm

so who goes to jail, the car, the driver, or the programmer?
Probably the driver and who ever authorized turning off the emergency braking system.
 
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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

June 8th, 2018, 6:46 am

Personally, I wonder what happens when someone overwrites Asimov's three rules to make the robot 1) sell Viagra; 2) play zombie pranks; and 3) monitor every action for the NSA.
lol, I can tell u about Viagra)) I am profy :D  'cause my friend found the website ( https://viagrabestbuy.com/ ) and ordered. I think it's dangerous to his health, but he's an experimenter.
 
 
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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

July 15th, 2018, 5:15 am

 
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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

July 25th, 2018, 5:58 am

this is from a british tabloid
Sexbots turning Japanese into 'ENDANGERED species' as men choose dolls over women
not sure why the japanese are singled out
 
 
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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

August 4th, 2018, 10:11 am

People are actually working on "emotions" in AI.
to make the sexbots more realistic?
 
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Re: Defend yourself against the coming robot rebellion

August 7th, 2018, 6:24 am

brits can buy a sexbot fot 25GBP a month
no doubt they'll repo it if you miss a payment