when is marsden right???He comments on world affairs when the guy probably hasnt even left the US...Why dont you go to some of these hotspots before you comment on them???

player >> when is marsden right???He comments on world affairs when the guy probably hasnt even left the US...Why dont you go to some of these hotspots before you comment on them???Read the last four posts on this thread:http://www.wilmott.com/messageview.cfm? ... adid=14439

QuoteOriginally posted by: playerwhen is marsden right???He comments on world affairs when the guy probably hasnt even left the US...Why dont you go to some of these hotspots before you comment on them???Dissociative disorder much, yobber?

Reading that thread its amazing to see how many people marsden has pissed off....Marsden truely has no friends...but I guess he does not care

Eh, if you'd pissed off the people I've pissed off, you wouldn't care either.

QuoteOriginally posted by: playercongratulations laosun....you've overtaken marsden as the biggest prat on this forum...why dont you learn english first and then come back on this forum to make you're point...These sucide bombers..had they gone to Iraq?Had they lived under Saddma hussain?Do they know what life is like under a tyrant? Had they asked the 8 million iraqi's who went to cast their vote in January how they feel.? Do they represent the views of most Iraqi's???Why dont you crawl back under the hole you came from???u make me feel pity of u, i am originally from China and am living in france.I won't give a shit whatsevere u are for, those go for the war have their raisons and those who suicide bomb have or had theirs as well.What is real is that u all stick to what u think and u all will continue to kill each other.Congradulations too if u kill more of them, but congradulations too, to them if they manage to do what they want.That would make u happy I think.........And I know that most people in in forum are UKs or USAs. My words will not plaese u But as a thing of fact, when I talk to people of other nationalities, they all agree for some instance that u are getting what might serve u well good.... That is not just my opinion, try to discuss this when you are abord without disclosing your nationality. Hehehehe....A good link for you, do not know wether it is sadic :http://www.icasualties.org/oif/

hope that this world is going to have less stupid killings, no matter what pretext it is

Laosun...i pity you.....coz you dont have a fucking clue.....I have been abroad and I've spoken to various people and while people may or may not agree with the war in Iraq.......no-one says that we deserve it....How does bombing london further anyone's cause....???According to your theory if tibetan monks started bombing china its because they deserve it???

player - is it me or is your language getting worse lately?

people may or may not agree with the war in Iraq.......no-one says that we deserve itObviously you haven't quite met enough people ?Presumably some people think that, else it would not happen...Human justice is a statistical term. Bombings, be they of Hiroshima or London do get some of the "right" people. So does a court of law. Innocent people get sent to jail or executed, so do civillians with on reason under any logic or moral cause when you try to punish and persuade them this way.Thus you must decide what your acceptable error rate is. ....How does bombing london further anyone's cause....???We're social animals. Forget the arts graduate crap that most war is hate. People crave the approval of others, and desire to improve their status with them.Suicide bombers are thus people who just are too emotionally weak to risk losing the approval of their peer group. They will say they "care" about Iraq, yet we observe that none appear tb be from the quite large set of of Iraqis who are in Europe and America. Weak people need a cause to give their lives the meaning they lack, and they need an excuse for the disparity for the success they wishfor their lives, and what they achieve.Short versio, they're showing off to their mates.Young males of all cultures do this. They try riding the roof of a train, take drugs they don't enjoy, drive cars in heroically stupid ways, and pick fights with people for no benefit to themselves other than to improve their status.To this we must add the traditional incompetence of Arabs at war.Too much of this culture is based upon peer approval, a problem Europeans had as recently as the 1940s, and never completely eradicated. I commend to you On the Psychology of Military Incompetence which shows how analagous flaws in British military "thinking" cost the lives of many soliders.Religion makes this worse.It squares the set of objectives. If you want to achieve a goal, you tend to have to do things that you find objectionable. This may involve pain to innocents or yourself. However if you are deeply religious, amny of the things you might find useful are forbidden to you, or when done are so clumsy because of your distaste that you screw them up.In Mr. Dixon's book, Britain was the top dog in techological innovation for a long time, but this was squandered by the Army & Navy because they felt that many advances were outside their tradition.Although it is a long time since Christianity had any real effect on the British army, the love of horses seems to have filled that niche. We find weapons rejected in the 20th century because they couldn't work with cavalry, or worse competed with budgets for horses. Indeed even after WWI there were prolonged periods where more was spent on horses than tanks. The Imperial British Army and a bunch of losers with home made bombs look very different. But they suffered from the same core defect. Keeping the approval of others wa more important than the objective.Any fool could work out that Tony Blair would instantly become more popular, indeed there is now quite a lot of talk of him not resiging as he promised, but staying on.That's not a "British" thing, but a human thing, as we saw with Bush after 9/11, and Iran after it was attacked by Iraq, and any number of attacks. People rally round the leader.We're not up against very competent people here.Look at the ways they were caught.Using relatives phones and homes. Carrying documents that allowed the police to track back. Travelling in groups to commit the attacks. Not having safe houses. No personal weapons.No investment in training time so that they could put up omre than a fight. Why weren't their source locations booby trapped ?Common to all the Abrahamic religions is a big hole. No where are you told that one day you will appear before God and he will ask "why the fuck didn't you think this through ?, are you stupid or what ?"It's all about doing what your heart tells you, and things will work out well in the end.

DCFCI made a mistake in what I wrote.What I meant to say was that not everyone says we deserve it. This was to counter act against laosun statementQuotethey all agree for some instance that u are getting what might serve u

QuoteOriginally posted by: playerblair wants to kick out extremists....Does treason still carry the death penalty in the UK ?QuoteClerics may face treason chargesSeparately, British prosecutors said they would consider treason charges against any Islamic extremists who express support for terrorism.British Attorney General Lord Peter Goldsmith’s office said the Crown Prosecution Service’s head of anti-terrorism would meet with senior Metropolitan Police officers to discuss possible charges against three prominent clerics as part of a crackdown on those the government believes are inciting terrorism.Clerics Omar Bakri Mohammed, Abu Izzaden and Abu Uzair, have appeared on British television in recent days and a spokeswoman for Lord Goldsmith’s office said prosecutors and police would look at remarks made by the three and consider whether they could face charges of treason, incitement to treason, solicitation of murder, or incitement to withhold information known to be of use to police.Mohammed has reportedly said since the July 7 attacks that he would not inform police if he knew Muslims were planning another attack and he supports insurgents who attack troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Apparently the law was changed in 1998 so hanging is no longer applicable....however i dont know if that includes high treason or not

QuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoeplayer - is it me or is your language getting worse lately?He's a yob -- his language is just getting back to normal.

Marsden, which views of George Galloway differ from your own out of interest?