Zeta,QuoteOriginally posted by: zetawhat do you do to limber up before a performance? I find wiskey tends not to help; do you have a glassof buttermilk?My annular fingers and fifth fingers do not function well due to my imbecility. Therefore, when playing a keyboard, I use 3+3=6 fingers in total. (So I massage those 4 fingers not being used well for their entirety (i.e. 10 fingers) before performance.) When I play gitar, I can use all fingers.How about you? (Maybe, you use lotion or varnish or wax; due to my imbecility, I do not know perfectly politically correct expressions; if there are some impolite expressions, I will apologize to you.) You are a great musician, I know. Please teach me your mysteries. If you can teach me more, I can talk about myself even a little bit more.Tunito the Six Fingers

QuoteOriginally posted by: TunitoDear genius Wilmotters with my dearest doreilly, and Music Likers all over the world:Today, since such a day is too risky to be in a greater city (considering of At. B), I quit my job and evacuated into the remoted puebla, wherein there is a chic karaoke parlor. There, with my moron, idiot buddy "Tacky", We sang 60 songs in all. (B: means sung by my bloody "Buddy Tacky"; T: means sung by "Tunito") The list of the songs sung is as follows:# Song y Performance Rating1. "Anything For You", Gloria Estefan, sung by T2. "Redful Lie", Sanma Akashiya, sung by B3. "Imjin River", Kim Yonja, sung by T4. "Our Dearest Juvenile Amigos y Amigas", Shuji & Akira, sung by B5. "Sledgehammer" (Japonese version), Peter Gabriel, sung by T6. "Baby I Love You", Jennifer Lopez, sung by B7. "Vive La Vida Loca" (Espanol version), Ricky Martin, sung by T8. "Careless Whisper, Wham, sung by B9. "Living in America", James Brown, sung by T (Now, the great he is within my repertoire.)10. "Scatman", Scatman John, sung by B11. "Shimauta" (Original Version), Boom, sung by T12. "Louisiana", Carroll, sung by B13. "Breakout", Singout Sister, sung by T14. "Double Vision", Foreigner, sung by B15. "You Haven't Done Nothing", Steivie Wonder, sung by T16. "Don't Phunk With My Heart", Black Eyed Pees, sung by B17. "Swept Away", Cho Yonpil, sung by T 75/10018. "Virgin Blue", Sally, sung by B 85/10019. "Saranhe-I Love You", I Son-e, sung by T 73/10020. "Tommrow's Joe" (dedicated to TJ), Isao Bitter, sung by B 81/10021. "Beat It", Michael Jackson, sung by T 82/10022. "Stuck", Stacey Orrico, sung by B 75/10023. "Mr. Roboto", Styx, sung by T 79/10024. "Blue Suede Shoes", Elvis Presley, sung by B No Points25. "Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know", Britney Spears, sung by T 73/10026. "Can't Stop Falling In Love", Glove, sung by B 79/10027. "Too Many Teardrops Falling", Rimmy Natsukawa, sung by T 77/10028. "Lupin III's Theme", Ichiro Watertree, sung by B 75/10029. "Fishermen's Song-Tune27", Let's Go (Vamos), sung by T 76/10030. "Whenever, Whereever", Shaquila, sung by B 76/10031. "The Entertainer", Billy Joel, sung by T 79/10032. "Kiss Kiss", Holly Valance, sung by B 78/10033. "Sara", Starship, sung by T No Points34. "Promenade in Paris", Gary Moore, sung by B No Points35. "Jongara-Long Away From Home", Tucky Hosokawa, sung by T 77/10036. "Summertime", Janis Joplin, sung by B 72/10037. "Androller In A Labyrinth", Kyon2, sung by T 77/10038. "Sand Beige" Akina Centerwood, sung by B 73/10039. "Woman In Love", Barbra Streisand, sung by T 76/10040. "Sexy Music", Nolans, sung by B No Points41. "Miss Me Blind", Culture Club, sung by T 78/10042. "Nathalie", Julio Iglesias collab. with Hiromi Go, sung by B 78/10043. "Breakaway", Kelly Clarkson, sung by T 77/10044. "Champion", Alice, sung by B 79/10045. "Private Eyes", Daryl Hall & John Oates, sung by T No points46. "Secret", Madonna, sung by B No points47. "Your Song", Elton John, sung by T 77/10048. "I am Machiko", Yuko Right Now, sung by B 84/10049. "I like Chopin", Gazebo, sung by T 86/10050. "Superstar", Carpenters, sung by B No Points51. "Bakabon The Genius", Idle 4, sung by T 85/10052. "Tigre's Mascara", Hiroshi Montenuevo, sung by B 87/10053. "Floating Boat's Song-Tune27" (Jamaican Version), Aki Eightcastle, sung by T 74/10054. "Spaceship Yamato", Isao Three-Three-Tree, sung by B 84/10055. "When Doves Cry", Prince, sung by T No Points56. "Sexy You", Hiromi Go, sung by B No Points57. "We are the World", USA for Africa, sung by T 74/10058. "You Are My Destiny", Paul Anka, sung by B 83/10059. "Do It Again", Steely Dan, sung by T 77/10060. "Corazones", Martin Valin, sung by B No PointsExtra #. "Dance (Bailamos!)" composed and sung by Tunito 5/100What. No Foghorn ??

Joe,QuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoeQuoteOriginally posted by: TunitoDear genius Wilmotters with my dearest doreilly, and Music Likers all over the world:Today, since such a day is too risky to be in a greater city (considering of At. B), I quit my job and evacuated into the remoted puebla, wherein there is a chic karaoke parlor. There, with my moron, idiot buddy "Tacky", We sang 60 songs in all. (B: means sung by my bloody "Buddy Tacky"; T: means sung by "Tunito") The list of the songs sung is as follows:# Song y Performance Rating1. "Anything For You", Gloria Estefan, sung by T2. "Redful Lie", Sanma Akashiya, sung by B3. "Imjin River", Kim Yonja, sung by T4. "Our Dearest Juvenile Amigos y Amigas", Shuji & Akira, sung by B5. "Sledgehammer" (Japonese version), Peter Gabriel, sung by T6. "Baby I Love You", Jennifer Lopez, sung by B7. "Vive La Vida Loca" (Espanol version), Ricky Martin, sung by T8. "Careless Whisper, Wham, sung by B9. "Living in America", James Brown, sung by T (Now, the great he is within my repertoire.)10. "Scatman", Scatman John, sung by B11. "Shimauta" (Original Version), Boom, sung by T12. "Louisiana", Carroll, sung by B13. "Breakout", Singout Sister, sung by T14. "Double Vision", Foreigner, sung by B15. "You Haven't Done Nothing", Steivie Wonder, sung by T16. "Don't Phunk With My Heart", Black Eyed Pees, sung by B17. "Swept Away", Cho Yonpil, sung by T 75/10018. "Virgin Blue", Sally, sung by B 85/10019. "Saranhe-I Love You", I Son-e, sung by T 73/10020. "Tommrow's Joe" (dedicated to TJ), Isao Bitter, sung by B 81/10021. "Beat It", Michael Jackson, sung by T 82/10022. "Stuck", Stacey Orrico, sung by B 75/10023. "Mr. Roboto", Styx, sung by T 79/10024. "Blue Suede Shoes", Elvis Presley, sung by B No Points25. "Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know", Britney Spears, sung by T 73/10026. "Can't Stop Falling In Love", Glove, sung by B 79/10027. "Too Many Teardrops Falling", Rimmy Natsukawa, sung by T 77/10028. "Lupin III's Theme", Ichiro Watertree, sung by B 75/10029. "Fishermen's Song-Tune27", Let's Go (Vamos), sung by T 76/10030. "Whenever, Whereever", Shaquila, sung by B 76/10031. "The Entertainer", Billy Joel, sung by T 79/10032. "Kiss Kiss", Holly Valance, sung by B 78/10033. "Sara", Starship, sung by T No Points34. "Promenade in Paris", Gary Moore, sung by B No Points35. "Jongara-Long Away From Home", Tucky Hosokawa, sung by T 77/10036. "Summertime", Janis Joplin, sung by B 72/10037. "Androller In A Labyrinth", Kyon2, sung by T 77/10038. "Sand Beige" Akina Centerwood, sung by B 73/10039. "Woman In Love", Barbra Streisand, sung by T 76/10040. "Sexy Music", Nolans, sung by B No Points41. "Miss Me Blind", Culture Club, sung by T 78/10042. "Nathalie", Julio Iglesias collab. with Hiromi Go, sung by B 78/10043. "Breakaway", Kelly Clarkson, sung by T 77/10044. "Champion", Alice, sung by B 79/10045. "Private Eyes", Daryl Hall & John Oates, sung by T No points46. "Secret", Madonna, sung by B No points47. "Your Song", Elton John, sung by T 77/10048. "I am Machiko", Yuko Right Now, sung by B 84/10049. "I like Chopin", Gazebo, sung by T 86/10050. "Superstar", Carpenters, sung by B No Points51. "Bakabon The Genius", Idle 4, sung by T 85/10052. "Tigre's Mascara", Hiroshi Montenuevo, sung by B 87/10053. "Floating Boat's Song-Tune27" (Jamaican Version), Aki Eightcastle, sung by T 74/10054. "Spaceship Yamato", Isao Three-Three-Tree, sung by B 84/10055. "When Doves Cry", Prince, sung by T No Points56. "Sexy You", Hiromi Go, sung by B No Points57. "We are the World", USA for Africa, sung by T 74/10058. "You Are My Destiny", Paul Anka, sung by B 83/10059. "Do It Again", Steely Dan, sung by T 77/10060. "Corazones", Martin Valin, sung by B No PointsExtra #. "Dance (Bailamos!)" composed and sung by Tunito 5/100What. No Foghorn ??Yeah. But only my and his foghorns.(I greatly appreciate your courteous response. Thanks, my buddy.)Tunito Living in America...Yeah!

Quote You are a great musician, I know. Please teach me your mysteries. Sadly I'm not. I played flute for a while but gave it up in high school b/c it was a health hazard. However the love for music stayed.There aren't any mysteries I could impart which you couldn't learn on your own, but the most appealing music to me has the compound time signature 6/8, 9/8 or 12/8 ED: although the walkmen often use a simple 2/4 so I like that too

So you're not a junglist then aka 3000 bpm .

that's my heart rate after a few double xpressos. I didn't know you liked the indie/alt scene teej. Any good british bands you'd recommend? I just discovered fiery furnaces "single again"; brilliant

> but the most appealing music to me has the compound time signature 6/8, 9/8 or 12/8 zeta, you sound like Dave Brubeck fan: Blue Rondo ala Turk (9/8), Take Five (5/4), Eleven Four (self-referential title, 11/4), Unsquare Dance (7/4), many others ... here's a list of works in irregular time signatures

close no, I more go for (off that list anyway) led zep. Although to be honest they do more of the metrical combos, eg., Kashmir.I read a while ago of an interesting study of music using deep structure ideas. We're all familiar with harmonic analysis (the functions of hilbert space). Deep structure is the study of the overall texture of music based on metrics, like the vectors of Hilbert space.

Zeta,QuoteOriginally posted by: zetaclose no, I more go for (off that list anyway) led zep. Although to be honest they do more of the metrical combos, eg., Kashmir.I read a while ago of an interesting study of music using deep structure ideas. We're all familiar with harmonic analysis (the functions of hilbert space). Deep structure is the study of the overall texture of music based on metrics, like the vectors of Hilbert space.You seem to be a music fun, don't you?Could you do me a favor to recommend one most recent, greatest musician in whatsoever genre?(I have only 3,000 yen in my wallet right now; today, I'll go and buy a new one that would be recommended by you!)Tunito That Loves Zeta

er yes well shucks I still recommend 'the killers' particularly 'all these things I've done'

QuoteOriginally posted by: zetaclose no, I more go for (off that list anyway) led zep. Although to be honest they do more of the metrical combos, eg., Kashmir.Excellent point about Led Zep's use of metrical combos - other Zep examples besides Kashmir:"Moby Dick" contains an astonishing assortment of time signatures: 2/4, 3/4, 4/4, 5/4, 12/8, 9/8, 7/8, 5/8 & 15/8. There are a few measures in 4/4 near the end, but it returns to 3/4 and 5/8. "The Ocean" is partially in 15/8. "Black Dog" alternates between 3/4, 4/4 and 5/4. "How Many More Times" contains 12/8, 4/4 and 1/4, "The Crunge" contains 4/4, 9/8 and 5/8 ... the list goes on and on.

QuoteOriginally posted by: zetathat's my heart rate after a few double xpressos. I didn't know you liked the indie/alt scene teej. Any good british bands you'd recommend? I just discovered fiery furnaces "single again"; brilliantSorry but I've traded in the NME and Melody Maker (now defunct) for The Economist & the FT. I grew out of indie and into classical around the same time. There's no going back now .

QuoteOriginally posted by: zetaclose no, I more go for (off that list anyway) led zep. Although to be honest they do more of the metrical combos, eg., Kashmir.I read a while ago of an interesting study of music using deep structure ideas. We're all familiar with harmonic analysis (the functions of hilbert space). Deep structure is the study of the overall texture of music based on metrics, like the vectors of Hilbert space.Yes. Bach's fugues were pure mathematics. I'm sure Mr N. will agree .

QuoteOriginally posted by: AthleticoQuoteOriginally posted by: zetaclose no, I more go for (off that list anyway) led zep. Although to be honest they do more of the metrical combos, eg., Kashmir.Excellent point about Led Zep's use of metrical combos - other Zep examples besides Kashmir:"Moby Dick" contains an astonishing assortment of time signatures: 2/4, 3/4, 4/4, 5/4, 12/8, 9/8, 7/8, 5/8 & 15/8. There are a few measures in 4/4 near the end, but it returns to 3/4 and 5/8. "The Ocean" is partially in 15/8. "Black Dog" alternates between 3/4, 4/4 and 5/4. "How Many More Times" contains 12/8, 4/4 and 1/4, "The Crunge" contains 4/4, 9/8 and 5/8 ... the list goes on and on.Was John Bonham the greatest rock drummer of all time? Or does that honour go to Mr Keith Moon ? Anyone see that Led Zep movie. Pretty funny.

> Was John Bonham the greatest rock drummer of all time? Or does that honour go to Mr Keith Moon ? Anyone see that Led Zep movie. Pretty funny.Bonham was much better than Moon - it's not even close. Keith Moon was actually a pretty sloppy drummer (this might get me flamed by Who fans). They both had balls but Bonham had precision too.But the greatest rock drummer of all time? Probably Carl Palmer.