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Posted: **April 14th, 2018, 2:53 pm**

Imagine all the Wilmotters talking maths in peace.
Lovely Lennon song... That would be marvelous...

Calling it either John Lennon's or Yoko Ono's alone is an exaggeration and oversimplification. While it was true that John Lennon got his inspiration of the song and most of the lyrics from Yoko Ono's Grapefruit, he composed the music, played and sang the song, and both of them produced the song.

Striking Syria is a grave error.
since lovenatalya called it a "Lovely Lennon song," it seems that lovenatalya is admitting that he/she exaggerated and oversimplified

At the time it was all very real (US versus Lennon)
https://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/21/opinion/21thu4.html

The F.B.I.’s surveillance of Lennon is a reminder of how easily domestic spying can become unmoored from any legitimate law enforcement purpose. What is more surprising, and ultimately more unsettling, is the degree to which the surveillance turns out to have been intertwined with electoral politics. At the time of the John Sinclair rally, there was talk that Lennon would join a national concert tour aimed at encouraging young people to get involved in politics — and at defeating President Nixon, who was running for re-election. There were plans to end the tour with a huge rally at the Republican National Convention.

And as we all know, Richard Milhouse Nixon was no stranger to peeping into other people's bizness.

Posted: **April 14th, 2018, 3:44 pm**

it's Richard Milhous Nixon

to be fair to president nixon, j edgar hoover ran the fbi until May 2, 1972, and much of what hoover did was unauthorized.
If the FBI was spying on lennon, it was because hoover wanted it, not because of anything nixon did
wiki

Later in life and after his death, Hoover became a controversial figure as evidence of his secretive abuses of power began to surface. He was found to have exceeded the jurisdiction of the FBI, and to have used the FBI to harass political dissenters and activists, to amass secret files on political leaders, and to collect evidence using illegal methods. Hoover consequently amassed a great deal of power and was in a position to intimidate and threaten sitting presidents.

One of his biographers, Kenneth Ackerman, writes that the allegation that Hoover's secret files kept presidents from firing him is “a myth”. However, Richard Nixon was recorded in 1971 stating that one of the reasons he did not fire Hoover was that he was afraid of reprisals against him from Hoover. President Truman said that Hoover transformed the FBI into his private secret police force:
... we want no Gestapo or secret police. The FBI is tending in that direction. They are dabbling in sex-life scandals and plain blackmail. J. Edgar Hoover would give his right eye to take over, and all congressmen and senators are afraid of him. — Harry S. Truman

Posted: **April 14th, 2018, 4:17 pm**

Next, you'll be saying Hoover did Watergate as well.

Posted: **April 15th, 2018, 6:14 am**

Imagine all the Wilmotters talking maths in peace.
Lovely Lennon song... That would be marvelous...

Calling it either John Lennon's or Yoko Ono's alone is an exaggeration and oversimplification. While it was true that John Lennon got his inspiration of the song and most of the lyrics from Yoko Ono's Grapefruit, he composed the music, played and sang the song, and both of them produced the song.

Striking Syria is a grave error.
since lovenatalya called it a "Lovely Lennon song," it seems that lovenatalya is admitting that he/she exaggerated and oversimplified

Hahahaa... not so fast, my good friend. You would not think I did not see that easy logical trap coming one step ahead, would you? The appearance is deceiving and the implication is a non sequitur. Read my paragraph again, my friend. :-D The key word is alone. When A and B jointly owns an object O, O is A's, O is also B's. So both katastrofa and I were logically correct, and neither exaggerated nor simplified. The only part that may be up to debate is the word "alone" may not be the best choice. "exclusively" may have been better and more unequivocal.

I wrote that paragraph to clarify the possible ambiguity of the ownership raised by my statement as well as katastrofa's, albeit both were correct.

Posted: **April 15th, 2018, 6:17 am**

Or that it's a FSB controlled account and the shift handover procedures failed.

Spoke too hastily, my friend, yet again.

Posted: **April 15th, 2018, 6:41 am**

While communism and its brethren socialism are abhorrences, I usually cut artists some slacks, so long as they do not try to impose those utopian visions on others.
I agree. Quite magnanimous of you. Utopian ideals should not get into the wrong hand. We have a government for that.
BTW if you know your history, Lennon beat the System.

Yes, absolutely, Cuchulainn. By the way, when I said "that would be marvelous" I was referring to what ISayMoo's line "Wilmotters talking maths in peace" rather than the "imagine no possessions" part of the lyrics. I agree with sensible things anybody says.
By "beat the System" are you referring to Lennon's battle with the US immigration authority and the court battle against the FBI? Maybe his political activism as well?

Posted: **May 25th, 2018, 9:30 am**

Whether you're right or not, there is no use arguing, lovenatalya. See it for what it is, a microcosmos / small world, shrug it off and move on to more interesting things.
Indeed it's a small world. Public displays of unprofessional behaviour, even under a pseudonym, may not good for someone's career.

Have you had that experience before?

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