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Should Wilmott ban unprofessional head hunters?

January 24th, 2007, 11:25 am

I came across several threads discussing negative experiences with headhunters.Some of you may be interested in this post in nuclearphynance.QuoteThis is a notice to alert members of NP that we are revoking the certification for the recruitment firm "xxxx yyyy". We have received first hand accounts of dealings with them and they certainly do not fulfill the standards expected of those allowed to advertise on NP.Should Wilmott forums consider emulating this practice? Comments welcome.BestReddy
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Should Wilmott ban unprofessional head hunters?

January 24th, 2007, 12:39 pm

Obviously I'm an interested party, so weight my words accordingly Part of the reason is the relative damage to either side. The bad HHs will simply take their advertising money elsewhere, there is no more endorsement from the site than any other advertising medium.To me, it would only be relevant if bad HHs suffered enough to either improve or leave the business.Don't see that happening.Also one needs good quality info on the various HHs, and it is worth noting also that several big firms operate under multiple brands.Technically no HH is banned from the forums, indeed there is no general ban on any type of person.Nearly all simply choose not to engage in conversations of this form. You can think this is useful info all by itself.The problem with bad HHs is not advertising, it's that people choose to do business with them in spite of knowing their faults.I like to think we're marginally less crap than most HHs, but we don't see people abandoning the bady guys wholesale, it's getting ther but not with the speed you'd expect.One HR said to me "we can get all the people we want from <known bad HH>, so I don't see any reason to put you on our list of suppliers".They were good to their word. You want this to change, you're going to have to do more than whinge on this stie (though it does help a bit).
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Should Wilmott ban unprofessional head hunters?

January 24th, 2007, 1:51 pm

 
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Should Wilmott ban unprofessional head hunters?

January 24th, 2007, 2:08 pm

Hi Dominic:Wanted to get a discussion started. My responses are below.BestReddyQuoteOriginally posted by: DCFCObviously I'm an interested party, so weight my words accordingly Part of the reason is the relative damage to either side. The bad HHs will simply take their advertising money elsewhere, there is no more endorsement from the site than any other advertising medium.After my post I checked the Jobs forum and found that it does cost $$ to post jobs. That indicates HHs benefit from advertising here and not being allowed to post here will impose a cost on HHs. Even a small drop in business will have a material impact on the margins.QuoteTo me, it would only be relevant if bad HHs suffered enough to either improve or leave the business.Don't see that happening.One does not know unless one tries. QuoteAlso one needs good quality info on the various HHs, and it is worth noting also that several big firms operate under multiple brands.Feedback from Wilmott's members should be sufficient.QuoteTechnically no HH is banned from the forums, indeed there is no general ban on any type of person.Nearly all simply choose not to engage in conversations of this form. You can think this is useful info all by itself. If banning is not an option, then we can have an organised list of HHs with comments or a rating system like BBB or the rating system for online vendors.QuoteThe problem with bad HHs is not advertising, it's that people choose to do business with them in spite of knowing their faults.Not always ... it is not easy getting good feedback on HHs - certainly not for everyone.QuoteI like to think we're marginally less crap than most HHs, but we don't see people abandoning the bady guys wholesale, it's getting ther but not with the speed you'd expect.One HR said to me "we can get all the people we want from <known bad HH>, so I don't see any reason to put you on our list of suppliers".They were good to their word. Change has to start somewhere - and it is going to be incremental. But that should not be a reason for not starting.QuoteYou want this to change, you're going to have to do more than whinge on this stie (though it does help a bit)."whinge" is probably a strong word. I have a suggestion which may (or may not) work. Hopefully my post will start a discussion and something might come out of it. I cannot change HR or HHs. But I can start a discussion and then may be Paul Wilmott can start the change.I know good HHs now (includes you) - but not when I started looking.