evidently dead people get to vote for obama in the electoral college as well as the general !QuoteGary Kreep, executive director of the United States Justice Foundation:"In the 28th Congressional District (Congressman Howard Berman), situated in Los Angeles County, Ilene Huber is listed as the presidential elector designated in that district. However, as shown in the attached certified statement of Dean C. Logan, registrar-recorder/county clerk of the county of Los Angeles, state of California, there is no Ilene Huber listed as a registered voter in the County of Los Angeles. A statewide search of public records has revealed only one Ilene Huber in the state of California, and she is deceased-a copy of her certificate of death is attached hereto as well"

the latest update on Gerg's suitObama and the DNC let a Dec. 1 deadline slip by without responding to his petition for writ of certiorari demanding Obama produce a legitimate birth certificateBerg has now filed a motion to stop Obama from taking office in January: he's filed an emergency motion for immediate injunction, and is asking the court to stop state certification of electors to keep the Electoral College from meeting Dec. 15 and casting votes for Obama. He is seeking to postpone the official vote count Jan. 6 until the court reaches a decision on his appeal.

Constitutional Lawyer Discusses Ramifications Of ControversyQuote"Let's assume he wasn't born in the U.S.. What's the consequence? He will not be eligible. That means he cannot be elected validly. The people and the Electoral College cannot overcome this and the House of Representatives can't make him president. So what's the next step? He takes the oath of office, and assuming he's aware he's not a citizen, then it's a perjured oath."

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperConstitutional Lawyer Discusses Ramifications Of ControversyQuote"Let's assume he wasn't born in the U.S.. What's the consequence? He will not be eligible. That means he cannot be elected validly. The people and the Electoral College cannot overcome this and the House of Representatives can't make him president. So what's the next step? He takes the oath of office, and assuming he's aware he's not a citizen, then it's a perjured oath."Poops - enought already dude !This is very funy - I like the opening gambit "Let's assume he wasn't born in the U.S.. What's the consequence? He will not be eligible" - complete and utter tosh. If I was Obama I wouldn't show the f*ckers my birth certificate either.

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelI am glad to see that you think the constitution should be defended by the same person who issue this statementThat's ironically a very clintonian response: attack the people who criticize you.Blessed are the peace-makers: for they shall be called children of God.Obama could have gotten this guy on side and given him a small role in thecampaign, but instead they've demonized him.Again, it would have been so much easier just to produce a birth certificate.I think the constitution should be defended by everyone.In particular, the states' Secretaries of State should ensure that folks running for office are eligible for said offices. A valid defense to these suits would have been that they had already performed that function, yet none of those targetted by suits have raised that defense....... And chief justice roberts will be responsible for swearing in the next president, whoever he (or she) may be, so clearly he has a duty as well

QuoteIn particular, the states' Secretaries of State should ensure that folks running for office are eligible for said offices.And what makes you think that they are not satisfied that Hussein is eligible to be president ? Do you really think that the CIA, FBI, NSA would tolerate for one second that the USA could face a constitutional crisis from such a stupid matter ? I realise that you have to stay on message but this is getting very boring. Berg is a loony, The Philadelphia Bulltein is a right wing rag that would like nothing more than to see Hussein brought down. the "story" that they ran is complete tosh.

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelQuoteIn particular, the states' Secretaries of State should ensure that folks running for office are eligible for said offices.And what makes you think that they are not satisfied that Hussein is eligible to be president ? because they could have responded to requests that they very his eligibility by saying that they already hadQuoteDo you really think that the CIA, FBI, NSA would tolerate for one second that the USA could face a constitutional crisis from such a stupid matter ? that's not their role

Quotebecause they could have responded to requests that they very his eligibility by saying that they already hadHave you ever driven through a remote village in a third world country ? I have - and every time you go through a village a pack of rabid dogs will come chasing your car tyres yapping for all they are worth. the best way of dealing with them is to ignore them - they will slink back to the shade of the nearest hut and keep out of the sun. thats what most sensible people think the response to Berg and his accolytes should be.Quote that's not their role I think you wil find that it is - you are suggesting that Hussein is at best fraudulent and at worst criminal and you think the FBI/CIA/NSA would not be curious ?

QuoteThat's ironically a very clintonian response: attack the people who criticize you.So, do you agree with his statement about 9/11 ? I also think constitutions are very worthy of defense by all - but I think there has to be a real enemy - not straw men created by disgruntled, loony lawyers.

ppauper is anti-muslim .... he always calls Obama by his middle name Hussein.

sunni or shiite

QuoteOriginally posted by: fars1d3sppauper is anti-muslim .... he always calls Obama by his middle name Hussein.would you rather I called him Barack Milhous Nixon like Mark Levin does ?Hussein is his nameA while back, the point was made that the NYT had used the full name of every presidential candidate in living memory when profiling them, but made an exception for barack hussein obamaMcCain's middle name (sidney, which is one of those unisex names now) is no picnic either

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: fars1d3sppauper is anti-muslim .... he always calls Obama by his middle name Hussein.would you rather I called him Barack Milhous Nixon like Mark Levin does ?Hussein is his nameA while back, the point was made that the NYT had used the full name of every presidential candidate in living memory when profiling them, but made an exception for barack hussein obamaMcCain's middle name (sidney, which is one of those unisex names now) is no picnic eitherso lame

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelQuoteThat's ironically a very clintonian response: attack the people who criticize you.So, do you agree with his statement about 9/11 ? is your argument that because I agree or disagree with someone on one particular issue, that I must therefore agree or disagree with them on every other issue.He also believes that the round yellow object in the sky is called the sun and that the earth revolves around it. Since you agree with him on that, you have no choice but to agree with him on obama and on 9/11Quotedisgruntled, loony lawyers.if he's a "disgruntled loony lawyer", why in the name of sam hill did the commonwealth of Pennsylvania make him assistant attorney generalHis suit is largely as a result of both sides (BOTH) getting out of hand at the end of the democratic primaries. Hillary won the majority of the popular vote and if the delegates for michigan and florida had been alloted as those states voted she would have had the majority of elected delegates. Both sides lawyered up, and obama lost any right to claim the high ground by his actions then as he effectively disenfrachised the voters of those 2 states (the delegates were in the end allotted roughly 50-50 between the camps despite those states having overwhelmingly voted for hillary, which is rather like settling a dispute about a goal in a soccer game by giving each side half a goal). Obama could have made peace with these folks (one way, not the only way, would have been to make hillary his veep) and this would have gone away. Instead, his team have chosen to demonise his opponents, in a manner reminiscent of the ClintonsLikewise, producing that birth certificate would make this go away.....

Quoteis your argument that because I agree or disagree with someone on one particular issue, that I must therefore agree or disagree with them on every other issue.no - but you still haven't said whether you agree with him ont he 9/11 issue or not. I disagree with him on both for the record.QuoteHe also believes that the round yellow object in the sky is called the sun and that the earth revolves around it. Since you agree with him on that, you have no choice but to agree with him on obama and on 9/11There are some things that can be verified objectively and other things that are purely driven by one's baises.Quoteif he's a "disgruntled loony lawyer", why in the name of sam hill did the commonwealth of Pennsylvania make him assistant attorney generalthere is no accounting for poor judgement - Alberto Gonzales was appointed Attorney General