March 10th, 2004, 7:31 pm
QuoteOriginally posted by: unkpathWell that is a bit extreme, may I recommend you reconsider your interviewing criterial somewhat. It must depend on what you interview them on. I don't know about Oxford, but the Cambridge maths tripos allow for sufficient latitude, that students can get away with not as much maths as one might expect they should do. I am not advocating the French or Soviet system either, where you either walk in line or get the parts of you that stick out chopped off. There s got to be something in between! Also do not forget that people are not married with their university education, but evolve well beyond that time.Well, I'd accept that there was something wrong if I were rejecting people based on non-attendance, but I don't do that. Rather, I do the converse. I am willing to make extra time for anyone from my old university (and the other one, out on the fens), even if at first glance, their CV does not look much above the norm.I think that living in a college environment, where you are cheek to jowl with people of so many backgrounds, and where you can't help but gain from the environment, definitely turns out the sort of people I want. You seem to get much more rounded people from the collegiate systems than from others.One reason I am not too uncomfortable with placing a decent amount of weight behind which university somepone went to is that Oxbridge has good selectrion criteria at age 18. My class had an average of above AAAB at A-level back in the 80's, when that was quite an uncommon set of results, The students were then schooled one to one, and had to compete with other similarly bright people to stay ahead. They had also to get over suddenly not being the brightest person they knew any more.The whole experience seems to leave a pretty definite mark on people. I am sure that other places do the same, though.I'll still employ whoever I think is the best for a job (and I'm generally talking about graduate jobs), but I do try and be efficient with my time. I have found that inviting in everyone from Oxbridge, and then others who look interesting, is the best way to get a good selection of talent from which to pick. I'd urge anyone who has the choice to think long and hard about picking a "good" course at a middling institution. People like me who do the interviewing know we'll miss an odd pearl by being picky with who comes in, but prefer that to spending days trawling through unsuitable candidates. As I've said before, harsh as it may sound, I probably make offers to around 50% of the people I see from Oxbridge. 10% of those from Imperial, Durham, or St Andrews, and I have never passed someone from Trent Poly for as much as a second round. Even if I had started with a total lack of preconceptions, I think I'd be leaning to wards my current views by now.