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d32
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CQF as designation

April 22nd, 2007, 10:53 pm

Its quite possible that this topic has been asked before, but I can't seem to find any mention on it so far...After one have finished the CQF, is it something that can be put on the suffix of your name, such as PhD, MSc, CFA, etc.? If not, what gives the right to have CFA as a designation and not CQF? Thanks.
 
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CQF as designation

April 23rd, 2007, 6:36 am

I guess you can put whatever you want after you name. The question is how many people will recognise the abbreviation...
 
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CQF as designation

April 23rd, 2007, 6:36 am

Sorry, double post...
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CQF as designation

April 23rd, 2007, 9:40 am

d32,CFA is internationally recognized and widely accepted than CQF. People who are in quant community may understand the abbriviation...but for other's it doesn't work. Generally you should put something after your name which carries a dignity. The abbriviation should be well undrstood and above all it should carry a hallmark of porfessionalisim or knowledge. I can put some XYZ after my name and can claim that this is a cerification. Will u believe it?
 
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CQF as designation

April 23rd, 2007, 10:34 am

Just one more semantic remark - if you are John Smith CFA, you are John Smith - Chartered Financial Analyst. In case of John Smith CQF you'd be John Smith - Certificate in Quantitative Finance
 
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CQF as designation

April 23rd, 2007, 11:04 am

BIG DIFFERENCE, kids (in content)CFA: Once you got the 3 test, the experience is certified, etc . etc the Institute gives you the priviledge (not the right) to use the designation. As such it is not a license, since legally only sovereign's states can license you within their borders. It is a akin to a certifcation, but since the Institute has not legal authority as an independent state would, it is a "peer recognition". Its value depends on the weigh the industry assign to it.CQF: technically it could be consider a seminar, we all know it is much, much than that but legally speaking it does not carry more weigh. Again its value depends on the weigh the industry assign to it. It is another "peer recognition".The CFA helps you by providing a wide understanding of general finance (financial accouting, macro & microeconomics, etc.) more traditional finance aspects are emphasized. It could be considered a "cousin" of a general MBA program.The CQF givers you a deep understanding of the basic quantititave aspects of financial engineering (mathematical finance, quant finance, whatever name they called.). Less traditional aspects.... more math and applied concepts here. It could be considered a "cousin" of a Master in Science degree.By noting the differences in content, you should be able to figure out what is better suit to your needs.M
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CQF as designation

April 23rd, 2007, 11:14 am

I think putting CQF next to your name is a good idea. I dont see much difference between CFA and CQF - they are both just a certification and that is it. If you can put CFA on your badge -- why can't you put CQF as well? It doesnt really matter if someone would understand it or not - anyway you are putting it on your badge for people who would recognise it. Why care about those who doesn't?
 
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CQF as designation

April 23rd, 2007, 12:59 pm

I think this is an issue for the owners of the CQF exam to consider.....
 
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April 23rd, 2007, 1:11 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: MaeloBIG DIFFERENCE, kids (in content)CFA: Once you got the 3 test, the experience is certified, etc . etc the Institute gives you the priviledge (not the right) to use the designation. As such it is not a license, since legally only sovereign's states can license you within their borders. It is a akin to a certifcation, but since the Institute has not legal authority as an independent state would, it is a "peer recognition". Its value depends on the weigh the industry assign to it.CQF: technically it could be consider a seminar, we all know it is much, much than that but legally speaking it does not carry more weigh. Again its value depends on the weigh the industry assign to it. It is another "peer recognition".The CFA helps you by providing a wide understanding of general finance (financial accouting, macro & microeconomics, etc.) more traditional finance aspects are emphasized. It could be considered a "cousin" of a general MBA program.The CQF givers you a deep understanding of the basic quantititave aspects of financial engineering (mathematical finance, quant finance, whatever name they called.). Less traditional aspects.... more math and applied concepts here. It could be considered a "cousin" of a Master in Science degree.By noting the differences in content, you should be able to figure out what is better suit to your needs.MI guess the original question was about a more prosaic difference between the CFA and the CQF
 
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April 23rd, 2007, 1:25 pm

if i were a hiring manager (which i'm not btw, so don't count my advice as worth anything), i'd rate "Joe Bloggs, who has done the CQF" over "John Smith, CQF" because the first guy says to me; "I have put time & effort into my development & am interested & committed to educating myself.", whereas the second guy says; "I have learnt Quantitative Finance. I have a Certificate that says so.", which makes me worry that he's a bit misguided about how much he actually knows.Its just a matter of interpretation, but i'd be wary of accidentally giving that impression. That's not to be in any way down on the cqf, it's just that it is a relatively short course (albeit an intensive one) when compared with, say, a Masters or the CFA.As regards the CFA, if you look on the cqf webpage, you see it has cfa accreditation wihich means that you can count your cqf courses towards the annual required amount of "continuing professional development" you need just to *remain* a member of the cfa institute, which shows why the CFA is in some measure "bigger".
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CQF as designation

April 23rd, 2007, 9:49 pm

Thanks for the response, everyone. I do agree that CFA is more broad and cover various aspects of Finance that CQF wouldn't touch. That said, if you're not planning on being a financial analyst but rather a quant or a risk manager (in that case you'd probably have CQF, PRM?), then by having CQF after your name would probably serve you better than a CFA since the latter isn't going to be much help to you in the field. Am I right on this?
 
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CQF as designation

April 23rd, 2007, 10:08 pm

I would agree with samyonez Don't put it after your name, smacks of desperation and in my opinion is stupid. just my two cents. obviously putting it in your CV is OK
 
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April 23rd, 2007, 10:45 pm

i'd certainly advise against putting it after your name. But then I can't remember ever writing any of BA, MA, PhD after my name either.
 
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CQF as designation

April 24th, 2007, 6:43 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: d32After one have finished the CQF, is it something that can be put on the suffix of your name, such as PhD, MSc, CFA, etc.? If not, what gives the right to have CFA as a designation and not CQF? Thanks.CFA Institute grants charterholders like myself the right to refer to ourselves as P.Pauper, CFAWhoever issues the CQF qualification is the entity which decides whether you can refer to yourself as J.Smith, CQF. Take it up with them
 
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CQF as designation

September 13th, 2007, 8:25 am

how do u put the CQF qualification on ur resume ?7City - Certificate in Quantitative Finance?